Serious Question for REAL/HONEST boxing fans about Manny Pacquiao?!

[Cash Cow]

As you can see when he was at 130 he was putting on about 15lbs of water weight over night.

To answer your question, dehydrating yourself to that extent can in fact inhibit all of your abilities.

You can pass out doing nothing by being dehydrated, let alone fight championship fights.

His speed, power, and most importantly punch resistance could all have been effected by dehydrating to make weight.

Now that he seems to not have to dehydrate whatsoever by hanging around the mid 140's, his body feels better on fight night, so the speed and power is there and he seemingly takes a punch better.

Thats my take.

Nice post Reed...

I was wondering how many fighters you can name that have become faster & stronger in their 30's then they were in their 20's.

Also I am not of the belief that Manny was struggling to make 126 or 130lbs...or he was dehydrated in any of those fights. I never ever heard Roach or Pac at that time claim that they were struggling to make weight @126 or 130lbs

[al-Xander]

Come on man, get off this kick. He is not on steroids. I do believe his quality of opposition is meek, and that is a big reason for his massive successes, but he is not on steroids. There is no proof of this, and that accusation is getting old and you can't be serious when you say "Questions for serious fans" then you basically put an underlying message in your question where you are automatically point to him being on steroids.

Get real man, he's a great fighter, that's all.

He's the same ****** poster who keeps making threads saying
that Manny's opponents were weak, basically saying Manny is
actually weak. Then he crushes his own argument by saying Pac
is really on peds. WTF! What do you need peds for if all your
opponents are weak and you're expected to win, anyway?

Can the moderators ban all these ****** mdafkkers once and for
all for their ****** logic?

[Cash Cow]

Hes not 45 and as ******ed as this might sound to some Floyd lovers thru training, experience and hard work people can actually improve.

I agree with this, but what I will ask you is how many "boxer" have become stronger and faster as theyve moved up in weight and become older...

[Twako]

Nowhere in my post did i ever say Pqac was on Roids...i was asking a question as to why is he faster and more powerful as he's become older and in divisions above his...thats all...just a simple question.....i cant recall too many fighters who moved up in weight, got older but became faster and more powerful.

the post you replied to said all the logical explanations. your mind is boxed in and won't entertain any other thought so why bother create a thread?

[Cash Cow]

He was never rocked when he was campaigning at the lower weights Manny always has an iron chin, he's two previous ko losses at the flyweight level where due to his inexperienced attitude of rushing into punches at first, and being weight drained at the second... When he went up to featherweight, still because of his under developed defensive skills he often got caught with well placed punches from the great Mexicans of Barrera, Morales and Marquez but still nobody has dropped him or knock him down, most of the times because of Manny's unbalanced stance and body movement whenever he got caught with those punches it appears as if he was rocked but in reality he was just caught unbalanced... Now as a WW, Manny has a better defense now, yes he is still getting caught with flush punches but Manny is heftier now giving him great balance even when he is bouncing around, he is rarely getting caught in awkward position... And your arguement of Manny being faster and more powerful now.. I don't agree with that, he was much faster at the lightweight down, he slowed down when he went up in weight it's just that compared to the bigger guys he is tremendously faster... He was much powerful at the lightweight down often KO'ing opponents in the 1st round with 1 left straight, now at the WW-up it is fortunate that he developed his right hand as power punch also, often using combinations to beat up on his opponents with two hands both with enough pop to make terrible damage... You should review Manny's very early fights upto his last fight with Margarito before you make your accessments, Manny's rise is due to hard work, there's no other explanations!!!

Great post man....

[Cash Cow]

the post you replied to said all the logical explanations. your mind is boxed in and won't entertain any other thought so why bother create a thread?

I never said Pac was on roids in my post...i just posed a question....I respect everyones view on this....

[Cash Cow]

You're forgetting increased stamina as evidenced by increasing punch output. Hard to increase punch output when you go from 130 to 147 in TWO years. Especially when you consider 50+ fights and ring wars at the lower weights. He looked so bad in the Larios fight (pretty sure it was the one) the commentary team was questioning whether his career was over.

Then Ariza arrrived and the same commentary team were stunned at his turnaround in his fight with Diaz.

Yes his stamina has def increased in the past 2 years, maybe hes just running in higher altitudes....

[Cash Cow]

When he fought smaller guys he would get counter coming off balance thats how he gets drop but recently with these bigger guys manny hasnt been caught coming off balance when he throw his punches. thats probably why u dont see him getting rocked as much as he did when he fought smaller guys.

this is very possible...nice outlook

[IMDAZED]

It's just my belief... anyone could be on steroids I just don't think he is.
Some people on here believe he is on steroids, some don't.
Any boxer could be on steroids but it's just a case of innocent until proven guilty.

If that does happen and he is proven to be on steroids I will hold my hands up.

Basically. Your belief is no different from the next man believing the opposite. One thing's for sure: Manny Pacquiao doesn't care to have anyone find out.

[Cash Cow]

He's fighting bums and shot fighters. Why is everyone so surprised? David Diaz, sucks. Oscar Dela Hoya, old, shot and weight drained. Hatton, sucks. Cotto, shot. Clottey sucks. Margarito, shot and slow. Isn't this what we all say about Manny and his opponents? Why is everyone surprised he is blasting through these guys?

while i agree these guys are bums...none of these guys were ever BLASTED out by fighters their size with their strength & power.

can you name me anyone on any of those guys resumes..who "blasted them out"?