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  • King Ju-Ju
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    #111
    say what u want pacfarts, i never bash pacquiao but him asking for cotto at 145 because 147 was too much 4 him and then fighting clottey at the full 147 was a ***** move.

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    • Klemman
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      #112
      It's all about gamemanship and being in the position to dictate the requirements for the fight. It's been a part of boxing since there have been promoters and managers.

      That's why there are negotiations for the size of the ring, location of venue, who comes out to the ring first, who gets 51% of the purse, who's name goes up first on the fight poster, whether drug testing should be done 7, 14, or 21 days before the fight. (sorry to break this to you, but Mayweather isn't out to clean up boxing)

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      • BoZz
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        #113
        Originally posted by Lindsay
        Everybody has their own opinion and all people have the Right to have their own opinion but most of the pachaters are close minded and would always ignore the facts so whatever the Pacman does they will always find something negative to discredit his accomplishments even though nobody has done what he has done. Manny as a child grew up in poverty which no one here could imagine his home was a cardboard box, there is no welfare system in the Philippines, if you have nothing no one will help you but yourself. Despite this kind of poverty the Pacman never had to turn to crime, even petty one's, a lot of people would've but as a child you can already see his honesty he always worked hard at whatever he did whether worling as a construction worker or boxing. Theur is nothing that people can throw at him Right now so they(pachaters) just made up a baseless assumption that the Pacman is a "dirty" fghter taking PED's to go up in weight, but let me tell you this the Pacman even when sick would not take tylenol or theraflu or any medications because he has this superstitious belief that it would ruin his body, how could someone who doesn't even want to take mediction to make him better when sick take PED's? another thing is that on the second negotiation with fmw he accepted RANDOM OLYMPIC STYLE BLOOD TESTING but the cutoff date would be 7 days before the fight and one after the fight, what kind of PED would be effective after 1-6 daya of taking it, heck even antibiotics need to be taken 7 days to work and even if he could takes omething in one day it would show up on the test after the fight? and another thing is the Pacman be fighting at a fighting weight of 144 to 148 lbs in the last 3 years, if he was taking steroids he would't be able to fight consistently at this weight he would have to weigh higher, how can a fighter who walks around at 148 not be able to make 150 lbs easy(he was 144.6 in the last weighin) if he was taking PED's. Marquez did better that other fighters against the Pacman in the second fight but he still lost and the reason he did good was because the Pacman was dehydrated at that weight, remember and you can confirm this, the pacman was already going up to 135 after fighting barrera the second time because he was having a hard time making 130 but he took the fight with marquez a second time because we the fans wanted it, now as a smart fighter/man would you give that advantage to marquez again who could easily make 147 because he weighed 148 against katsidis, why ask for a catchweight against Pacquaio? because he wants to have that advantage again. How can the Pacman be afraid of someone who he knocked down 4 times and just food for thought cotto, margarito, delahoya, hatton, morales, clottey would beat the daylights out of marquez and those are the people that the Pacman manhandled.
        You are a ****** for writing all that.

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        • trainhard_187
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          #114
          Originally posted by BoZz
          catch weight because the opponent is nice and drained don't have to be einstein to figure that one out.

          HEY DUCKQUIAO TAKE THE OST AND YOU GOT THE FIGHT YOU COWARDLY CATCH WEIGHT FRAUD.
          Hey Floyd stop looking for excuses not to fight tough opposition, "Hes on PED's.", "He dont have a fanbase", "Hes a no name"

          Floyd quit going in hiding when theirs fighters who want to challenge you..

          He idiot dont forget the catchweight Floyd asked for against Marquez, and Floyd didnt even make the weight.. so please quit flapping your beak.. Your sound like Duckweather..

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          • FloydTBE
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            #115
            Excuses from team pac.
            So they demand cotto a CW of 145lbs, but they are demanding a proposed 3rd figt with jmm at 147lbs.
            Top Rank are jokes

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            • parabellum
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              #116
              Originally posted by LeadUppercut
              Why did they let that idiot Koncz respond ?

              That was a boxing question, it should have been answered by Roach.

              Koncz completely missed the point.

              The question was, why did Pacquiao refuse a reasonable catch-weight request from the LW Marquez, when he himself has used catch-weights on several occasions?

              The question was about boxing integrity, and Koncz answered "Manny makes the rules".

              WTF?
              A catch-weight with Marquez isn't necessary because they are practically the same size and Pacquiao isn't going to rehydrate one or two weight classes higher after the weigh-ins. Pacquiao and Marquez would weigh more or less the same on fight night so there won't be any size advantage.

              When Pacquiao asks for a catch-weight it is to prevent his opponent from gaining too much weight after the weigh-ins. Fighters back in the day didn't really need catch-weights because the weigh-ins were on the night of the fight so if you fought at 147 you would basically enter the ring at 147, they didn't have 24h to gain a weight advantage.

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              • npad69
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                #117
                who is marquez? is he an boxer?

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                • FloydTBE
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by parabellum
                  A catch-weight with Marquez isn't necessary because they are practically the same size and Pacquiao isn't going to rehydrate one or two weight classes higher after the weigh-ins. Pacquiao and Marquez would weigh more or less the same on fight night so there won't be any size advantage.

                  When Pacquiao asks for a catch-weight it is to prevent his opponent from gaining too much weight after the weigh-ins. Fighters back in the day didn't really need catch-weights because the weigh-ins were on the night of the fight so if you fought at 147 you would basically enter the ring at 147, they didn't have 24h to gain a weight advantage.
                  pac-jmm 3 shud be at 140lbs

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                  • waxfondler
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
                    Excuses from team pac.
                    So they demand cotto a CW of 145lbs, but they are demanding a proposed 3rd figt with jmm at 147lbs.
                    Top Rank are jokes
                    so in your opinion, the 2lbs wouldve been the game changer???
                    2lbs wouldve helped cotto deal with pac's speed & counter-punching?
                    2lbs wouldve helped cotto see those punches from odd angles?
                    give me a break dude... its obvious team pac used catchweight as an advantage, but do you think it really wouldve mattered???

                    its not like having your opponent move up 20lbs and buying your way out of actually meeting the weight requirement... pac/cotto was definitely the lesser evil compared to floyd/jmm.

                    if cotto had a better corner, it DEFINITELY wouldve helped him.

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                    • Kingdelboxeo
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                      #120
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                      Originally posted by JAS_JAS
                      that's how it is since the beginning, the draw and cash cow dictates the terms, even the greats such as SRR, SRL, ALI, etc etc...dictated the terms of their fight...why would you subject manny to your fantasies....
                      and they are still askin about mayweather wanting the drug test....
                      mayweather is the bigger draw and he is the bigger cash cow so manny should do wat mayweather is telling him according to your reasonings..


                      oh n this is coming from a manny pacquiao fan

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