I'm Sorry. KOSTYA TSZYU is NOT a HoF'er. His Best Win is Zab Judah!!

[-Kev-]

Next time, you must put a "j/k" after such a joke. Then you will be safe.

I am use to the lounge where I can say a joke and people will get it without me explaining it for 10 pages


NSB=Serious Business

[jrosales13]

ok, how about this, who was the best 140lber in the decade immediately after jcc???

its either between tszyu or hatton. how are either of those guys not hofers??

Hatton is not, Kostya is.

[BennyST]

WTF are you talking about?

I know exactly who Verno Phillips is, and I know who Vince Phillips is.

I am not getting the person itself confused, the name yes, not the person. I know Vince was a 140 pounder.

Vince was more a 147 pounder than 140.

[Walt Liquor]

To this thread but I'm gonna add some things.

1) idiots showing who Floyd "called out" immediately destroys their credibility. Tons of fighters have called out people, that means absolutely nothing. Doing it and saying it are 2 different things.

2) zab's best weight is and has always been 140. He was a pretty heavy favorite vs Zoo and zoo blasted his ass out. If you were a boxing fan during zoos era, you would never ever say zoo's only big win was vs zoo. Look at sharmba when zoo beat him. Sharmba was considered a damn good fighter. Look at mag and where he was in his career. Shane AND Oscar skipped 140 all the way, floyd bounced over 140 without fighting any real contenders that weren't long lost leftovers of zoo. By the time hatton fought zoo, he was done cuz of the layoff and injuries. Zoo has a waaaaay better resume than mike Tyson-all day.

Gina has proven over and over that she don't know shi t.

Zoo ruled 140 for years. Zoo fought many different stlyes of real contenders, not consistently hand picked opponents. Zoo was mashing out real fighter before his 20th fight. I would be happy to have a discussion with anyone regarding his credentials.

[-Kev-]

Are you saying that I, me, Gino Ros has no familiarity with the background of Kostya tszyu and i had to boxrec him today to see what he did?

Or are you saying that you merely disagree with my view and I am way underrating him?

Which?

No, he's trying to say I don't know anything about Tszyu because I got Vince Phillips name confused with Verno. Otherwise, he really has no argument in this thread. Notice all of his posts are aiming that one mistake I made way back in the beginning.

[Gino Ros]

I think tszyu deserves HOF status.

great amatuer career. was teh 140 lbs king for a minute. great power. good technique.

thing is, if tszyu is garbage, then hatton is garbage, and that makes floyd and pac's win over hatton garbage.

there's a loooooooong gap between HOF and "garbage"

Why can't tszyu be
very good"..

I put him at the miguel cotto level. I think Cotto is very good.

You guys are acting like I said Tszyu was hot steaming garbage. NO. I merely have him shy of the IBHOF.

[BigStereotype]

I agree that Zoo should be in the HOF, but you guys are getting carried away.

To say that 90% of the HOF doesn't deserve to be put in ahead of Kostya is ridiculous.

There is some that are in there who don't belong ahead of Kostya. And, I gave Bernardo that list but it is not 90% not even 50%.

And, me personally if I can vote for only one guy to get in the hall for either Tyson or Kostya. I would vote Tyson...

However, I hear people say that Cotto is a HOF'er. But, I would Tszyu over Cotto. I wouldn't vote for Cotto in the HOF, I would put Kostya over Gatti as well and over Corrales, Hatton, and Castillo who Bernardo mentioned.

Cotto's resume is WAY more impressive than Tszyu's. His win over Sugar Shane is worth more than Tszyu's entire career, if you ask me.

[Kagami Taiga]

Hatton is not, Kostya is.

i think hatton is. its hard to say he isnt imo. he has some good names on his resume, i think he will get in.

[Gino Ros]

To this thread but I'm gonna add some things.

1) idiots .

walt... Can you please not do that?
Thanks.

Let's have a boxing discussion on boxing merits without calling each other idiots and f@g

Thanks, man.

[-Kev-]

Vince was more a 147 pounder than 140.

But Tszyu-Phillips fight took place in 140 though that's all that matters, and he stayed at 140 for a few more fights before going back to WW.