Comments Thread For: Pacquiao's Adviser: Mayweather Waiting For Manny To Age

[WESS]

Im hearing you, but inactivity wouldnt harm Floyds skills. They are set in stone in his head and muscle memory. His ring fitness is all that would be effected and it didnt matter against SSM and JMM to old guys, one slow and old in SSM , and one oldish and bloated.

I don't know, Floyd's getting older. As yes the muscle memory is there and his skills are instilled into his brain. I think overtime his body wont perform like it should and being inactive IN the ring wont help. Like I said I wouldn't want to be the guy that's inactive.

I don't think Pac is fighting anyone that will make him out to be like the Ali or Holyfields. Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito weren't wars. Cotto busted his face and ear but it wasn't an all out war. His last REAL war was in 2008. He has yet to face someone that BRINGS the war like that.

Mayweather wouldn't even bring this war so there's nothing to worry about on that aspect. Mosley wont either. He might get one HARD shot in but at 40 there's nothing in the tank to make Pac "shop warn". No fighter has since 2008. It would be different if he took fights and went to war. He hasn't. JMM AT 140 might be a war and we could argue that he's shop warn then (but still have another victory over JMM IMO). In the meantime pac's not done enough to make me think he will show signs before Mayweather.

Mayweather's the one hurting here and he has himself to blame. If a fight gets made there will be NO excuses. But like I said I wouldn't want to be the inactive guy out of the two but its all stepulation and just an a opionion. Hell for the way Mayweather fights, he could be the next Hopkins (doubtful but just giving an example)

[Kamelion]

This is a really dumb theory and it would be a dumb if Mayweather kept waiting too, because he is older then Pacquiao. I'd be more concerned that Mayweather may decline. At any age it should be an even fight at least skill wise.

[megadeth]

LOL!! Can any of you geniuses here enlilghten me and everybody in the world, what type of drugs Pacquaio will be able to take during the 7-day window which will benefit him during fight night and not be found in his blood after the fight? I would just like to establish whether there is a realistic possibility that Pacquiao will be able to juice-up during the 7-day window as claimed by many uneducated comments.


There are steroids that u can take, that increase strength and u can feel the affect within minutes(Halotestin, Iron Mike reportedly used it). There are thousands of steroids just waiting to be rediscovered. I would bet my life that, there is another like that. Hell, now that I think about it, a steroid called 5aa 5-alpha-androstanediol a DHT precursor(was a legal supplement a few years ago) could increase strength and aggression for at least an hr and if taken in intranasal form, it's possible it would be out of the system by then. Even if its detectable, DHT is virtually undetectable, so chances are, u could use it and not get popped.

If you can't name anything other than that A-side meth bull**** that exists only in the minds of Mayweathers and Floydiots, that's because there is none known to medicine and science.

Really? Ever hear of a guy named Patrick Arnold? He is a chemist and supplement company owner(really nice guy by the way) and he invented "The Clear". At the time an undectable transdermal steroid. Know how he did it? Simply by looking in a book called "VIDA", picking a good candidate from the thousands of selections and making it himself. You wouldn't find anyone on any msg board anywhere, that had ever heard of tetrahydrogestrinone and yet it was known to medicine and science, so there goes that argument. It beat the OSDT & was only found, because the IOC was tipped off.

Steroids? You're ******ed if you think so. Steroids are used to build muscles, that's why it's mostly body-builders and weight lifters who use steroids. Pacquiao is not even muscular. Besides, steroids are used in 6 to 12-week cycles to be effective. 7 days is only 1 week, right? Steroids can't make someone faster. Just ask Fernando Vargas. If you want to see a muscular boxer, see Jeff Lacy or Floyd when he fought Hatton, Marquez and Mosley.

Just like there are different cars, people, ice cream, dogs, plants, printers and everything else in the world, guess what?!! Wait for the revelation.....There are different kinds of steroids! Some pack on mass quickly and...some don't.
If u don't want to gain lots of muscle or weight, its as using simple the right steroid as keeping calories at maintenance and working out. Pac is not muscular? That is just nonsense. Pac has a higher % of muscle to weight ratio than Jeff Lacy or FMJ. And no steroids don't make u faster, but training the correct muscles can. Now, steroids 101. What do they allow u to do again? RIGHT AGAIN!!! Train longer, harder and recover quicker. See where this is going?


EPO? It's only effective if taken a few hours before the fight, but it would kill any elite boxer who's hyperactive like Pacquiao because it will thicken his blood so much that his blood will clot during the fight. Do you think a multi-millionaire athlete like Pacquiao is going to risk dying by taking EPO? So far, only cyclists have been widely known to have used EPO, and 17 cyclists in the Tour de France have so far died because of it.


WRONG! EPO builds up your red blood cell count. Red bloodcells carry oxygen. The higher the % of red blood cells in your blood, the more you easier it is to throw more and more punches without getting winded.The blood thickening CAN happen, but only if you're letting hymocrite levels get too high, from using too much EPO. Being rich has nothing to do with it. Lots of other rich atheletes have used it and if u are a rich athlete, using EPO and not being properly monitored, you're a complete moron anyway.

Human growth hormone(HGH)? HGH will make one develop more muscles. As noted above, Pacquiao is not a muscular but rather a wiry fighter, so he couldn't have been using HGH. However, the most convincing proof that Pacquiao has not been using HGH is the fact that Pacquiao is still of the same height he had when he was fighting at 106 lbs. (5 ft 6 1/2 in.) ANYBODY WHO USES HGH WILL GROW TALLER, because as the name implies, HGH makes you grow taller and bigger.

Pac IS MUSCULAR. Saying he couldn't have taken GH is even more nonsense(seems to be a lot of it, in your post). GH isn't a great mass builder at all, so it would fit perfectly into a Pacman physique. Height? That's ur convincing proof? Is that part a joke? Ur serious with this? Geezz, someone kill me now!

GH ONLY increases height in people that are still growing. IE children& teenagers. Ever hear of long bones? When they close, your chance at growing closes too. Usually, ur late teens. Pac isn't in his late teens, is he? Then, there will be no increase in height, no matter how much GH he does.

I dare any *****, Floydiot or whoever in these boards to argue these facts about the drugs mentioned above. If you can't, better shut up and accept the fact that Floyd Mayweather is ducking Pacquiao like he shamelessly ducked Margarito and Cotto, and Mosley before Mosley turned 38.

There, now that your challenge has been met, I double you to show me where anything I said was wrong.
Also tell me why u aren't calling Pac a ducker for walking away from the first negotiations when FMJ gave him the exact terms he said he would agree to after fighting Clottey?

Just like there are different

[fabie]

Being inactive hurts your skills.

There's fine line.....

• TOO MUCH ACTIVITY CAN HURT YOU
• TOO MUCH INACTIVITY CAN HURT YOU

But those are for the extreme and both fighters do not qualify within.

Floyd's inactivity CAN hurt him but not to a point of total NON-ACTIVITY, he relatively takes care of himself working out all the time. Pacquiao on the other hand is more hurt on the physically being hit while going up in weight levels.

Mayweather's style preserves his body (which I favor) while Pacquiao is really into the baiting tactic of GETTING-HIT-TO-OPEN-HIS-OPPONENTS-UP (which is not as efficient as Mayweathers)...

And so in this light Mayweather got the edge on self-preservation and "AGING" thus can be used in the sense that:

• Mayweather is waiting for Pacquiao to wear out his gears being busted up, and adding more weights while fighting bigger fighters.

[ELPERRO]

****....floyd will become older too......floyd is older then manny. what does this adviser smoking? just make the fight!!!!!!!!

He's probably been smokin' crack with one of the mayweathers.....

[brooklyngod]

agreed with all the comments for this post, just say yes mayweather and both of you can fight. so we can see who is the p4p king of boxing once and for all.

[big_james10]

Michael Koncz, adviser to WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao, had a few choice words regarding a possible mega-fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. Koncz told BoxingScene.com's Ryan Burton that Mayweather is likely waiting for Pacquiao's abilities to decline. Negotiations to make the fight have failed twice.

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According to this idiot, Pacquaio will become older and his skills will decline while Mayweather (who is two years older than Pac) will get younger and his skills will improve.

This is the same guy who was claiming that Mayweather was demanding more money during negotiations for a Pac fight when THERE WERE NO NEGOTIATIONS TAKING PLACE! He has a lot of credibility!

[leegeelee]

How absurd this Pacquiao propaganda has gotten. Mayweather is older than Pac, How is he waiting on Pac to age? it seems to me Arum and the Pac camp go to great pains to look like they want to fight Mayweather while cherrypicking old, recently defeated, or catchweight drained fighters. A couple of weeks ago Arum was sounding like Berto would be next for Pac. Then Berto starched Hernandez in brutal fashion, now Berto is not well known enough. Mosley was turned down before he proved he was shot against Mayweather and now mosley is the man.

It has become painfully clear that Bob Arum has no passion for the fight game, only for money. Nor has he any concern for the legacy of a great fighter in Manny Pacquiao. In his mind we are all so incensed at Mayweather that he can get away with these money grubbing little sideshows between Pac and Top rank fighters.

I honestly believe the only thing Mayweather is waiting for is for Pac to take the comprhensive drug test. IMO if Pac is clean he should take the test, fight Mayweather, secure his legacy and get the hell away from Arum before its too late.

[spoonwars]

How about Floyd is waiting for Manny Pacquiao to agree to full random blood test. I mean until then what's the point in bringing up Floyd from Team Pac? To try and save face? How dumb do you have to be to buy into this ****??? How about Team Pac waiting for Mosley to age and his skills to decline before they agree to fight him. Team Pac is a joke.

How about Team Mayweather getting out of that closet and talk about fighting anybody? Yes, ANYBODY, including Kotelnik.

[Championart]

There's fine line.....

• TOO MUCH ACTIVITY CAN HURT YOU
• TOO MUCH INACTIVITY CAN HURT YOU

But those are for the extreme and both fighters do not qualify within.

Floyd's inactivity CAN hurt him but not to a point of total NON-ACTIVITY, he relatively takes care of himself working out all the time. Pacquiao on the other hand is more hurt on the physically being hit while going up in weight levels.

Mayweather's style preserves his body (which I favor) while Pacquiao is really into the baiting tactic of GETTING-HIT-TO-OPEN-HIS-OPPONENTS-UP (which is not as efficient as Mayweathers)...

And so in this light Mayweather got the edge on self-preservation and "AGING" thus can be used in the sense that:

• Mayweather is waiting for Pacquiao to wear out his gears being busted up, and adding more weights while fighting bigger fighters.

Come on that is B.S, is this the "new" excuse being drummed up if Floyd beats Pac. There is always a new excuse for if Floy'd beats Pac when they fight. Before it was Pac is too small, he'll be blood drained etc etc etc. Just let them fight and may the best man win no excuses.

Floyd's skills are greatly due to his reflexes, speed and athleticism. These are attributes that deteriorate in aging inactive boxers which Floyd fits the bill the longer the fight doesn't happen with Pac. Even Freddy Roach after Floyd's fight with Pac said that Floyd is slowing down. No amount of time of being in the gym can substitute or keep his skills at the level they would be if he was actively fighting.

As for Pac i do agree that his style of fighting would lead to more physical damage on a fighter causing wear and tear. But if they keep feeding him these slow prodding, no counter punching, come forward style of fighters he will have no wear and tear.

In all, both situations balance each other out and neither have a big advantage. If i were to choose one though i would rather be Pac and be the active fighter due to Floyd being inactive and needing to rely on his timing, sharpness and agility to effectively fight the way he does.