Richard SCHAEFER in the Steroid Lawsuit: "PACQUIAO's Head Has Gotten Bigger".

[THE REED]

I got your back though.

**stands outside on the ring apron, waiting for his tag team partner to call for help**

It's not my fault when we look back at Seoul Korea and roys whole careaaa... That I was 4 years old you were like 49.

[IMDAZED]

It's not my fault when we look back at Seoul Korea and roys whole careaaa... That I was 4 years old you were like 49.

And they got the nerve to wonder why Reed aint tag nobody, he just make em look like nobody

[Alibata]

What? Wow. Forget it, Ali.

What are you trying to imply. Just get to the point Dazed... Let me hear it. Obviously they are going to put on muscle. You sayin it shows more on Marquez and corrales then it does in Pacquiao, the water or the "softness". I get what your saying. I don't know how to answer that without assuming.

[Eaner0919]

That is the case what did you expect, a beer belly, a 12 pack and some 20 inch biceps.

this is the reason why people don't really take your debates all that serious

The fact that it is not the case shows that 15lbs of water does not mean you are going to look softer or more bloated. It just means you are going to look like what Manny weighs in now, a fuller not ****** in face is obviously a sign that he is not dehydrated.

so essentially what you are telling me is that you do see an added 15lbs of water?

because you have stated you think this is the same Manny just no longer dehydrating?

Pac is not coming in at 160-170 he is coming 2-3 lbs heavier. You expecting Manny to show the water or something.

no but you expect him to show less stryations etc etc right?

as a sign of water weight his face is fuller, maybe his ass is too LoL, a little in the waist, the legs, the back, I don't know what to say man it is cut and dry obvious LOL. I don't know if you are expecting a gut. Most fighters hydrate, like bradley and show me where the water is on his body.. You see it in the face not the body.

sorry but if you want to speculate about Manny's ass that's on you


138lbs



after the fight

you can visibly see he has gained weight as the rips in his abs and arms aren't as noticable

[IMDAZED]

What are you trying to imply. Just get to the point Dazed... Let me hear it. Obviously they are going to put on muscle. You sayin it shows more on Marquez and corrales then it does in Pacquiao, the water or the "softness". I get what your saying. I don't know how to answer that without assuming.

That they are the ones that might be juicing? LOL, ok.

[brick wall]

Well you don't know what I have done, tried to do, etc so I'd slow down with that. But to each his own. If you feel you can't accomplish anything or change anything then more power to you.

well good for you if you've done something else. i don't have to accomplish anything as a fan when it comes to things that are the responsibility of others. i have better things to take care of. i'm a boxing fan but i have a meaningful life outside of it. it is what it is...reality is staring straight at your eyes, that people who should be leading the way for better testing are not interested.

[IMDAZED]

well good for you if you've done something else. i don't have to accomplish anything as a fan when it comes to things that are the responsibility of others. i have better things to take care of. i'm a boxing fan but i have a meaningful life outside of it. it is what it is...reality is staring straight at your eyes, that people who should be leading the way for better testing are not interested.

Good for you.

[Alibata]

this is the reason why people don't really take your debates all that serious



so essentially what you are telling me is that you do see an added 15lbs of water?

because you have stated you think this is the same Manny just no longer dehydrating?



no but you expect him to show less stryations etc etc right?



sorry but if you want to speculate about Manny's ass that's on you


138lbs



after the fight

you can visibly see he has gained weight as the rips in his abs and arms aren't as noticable

How do you do that multiple quote thing? I have tried, I can't get it. AnywayI'll stick to my assumptions that Manny is just no longer cutting the weight and you can stick to a steroid based one. Show me a hydrated manny after or just before a fight showing water. He adds 2-3 lbs of water now. He looks the same after his lighter weight fights as he does in his weigh ins now. again he only adds 2-3 lbs of water.

[Horus]

He cant Knock out Marquez!

But he can TKO De la hoya, KO Ricky Hatton, TKO Miguel Cotto, and Break Margarito Face.

All while going toe 2 toe in most of the fights?

1. But he couldnt KO marquez!
2. But he couldnt KO Marco Antonio Barrera in 2007!
3. or Oscar Larios a guy who was stop by Israel Vazquez in 3 rounds the fight before he fought Pacquiao!!

Must have been that water weight!

[the gent]

No dude. I'm not saying you have less water weight. Water weight is a byproduct of sucking yourself down. Water weight comes from having to rehydrate your body. Now that we've established that, we're now looking at a Pacquiao who no longer has to "dehydrate" himself. Is he fighting at the weight he walks around at? If so...what is he doing in the gym that all other lightweights aren't? Juan Manuel Marquez routinely weighs well over 140+ pounds after making weight. Diego Corrales, etc. Did you see him when he decided to fight at his walking around weight? And these guys began at weights higher than Manny. So since we know he isn't in the gym eating donuts and just "maintaining his walking around weight" like so many like to spew on here, what is he doing so different that causes him to maintain a body-building physique and his attributes within six months of fighting at 135? This is why bringing up what he weighed on fight night is highly irrelevant.

You do realize in the human body, water = about 60% of your weight.