Am I wrong for suspecting Manny?

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  • joelab75
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    #161
    Originally posted by CarlosG815
    I have never seen anything that leads me to suspect Manny is on steroids. I was suspect only after he refused any kind of legit testing.

    I do not believe he is on steroids, but the fact that he refuses to test is very su****ious to me. And I know about the cutoffs guys, I don't care to hear it. With the window he wanted it would be very easy to slip in steroid usage and benefit during training, and still test negative after a fight, as many fighters have done throughout history.
    if you take the PEDS in the 7 day cut off how can that be useful to Manny? its the end of the training session. i thought you have to get used to it to become effective? and how Pac can get away with it if both boxers get tested just right after the fight?

    what if the fight ends in 2 rounds how can he get away with the drug testing? if he washed up the PEDS before the fight how can that be useful? im totally confuse here. I MEAN SERIOUSLY I NEED SERIOUS ANSWER from PEDS EXPERT here. bias aside.

    edit: because as far as i know Floyd asked for a 14 day cut off the first time. *****s were behind him but when Pac called his bluff Floyd changed it to no cut off date. and *****s were saying 14 days was not enough or even 7 days cut off. whats up with that?
    Last edited by joelab75; 12-06-2010, 11:49 AM.

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    • FLYBOY
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      #162
      Do NOT FORGET that guys like Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter and Barry Bonds DID NOT GET CAUGHT THROUGH DRUG TESTS. THEY GOT CAUGHT THROUGH THE DOCTOR'S LISTS. MOST DRUG TESTS ARE USELESS. YOU FAIL THEM IF YOU ARE ******. YOU GET CAUGHT IF YOUR DOCTOR GETS CAUGHT.

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      • Plasterman
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        #163
        I've suspected the Pacman is indeed a fudge packer for quite sometime now and a blatant Bi Sexual.

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        • FLYBOY
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          #164
          Originally posted by HandSpeed303
          You had a point, until number 3...You just sound ****** at 3.

          My take on the situation. Manny is on something, but is it a band substance? No one knows for sure (I don't think so). Plenty of fighters/athletes are on something...Is it a band substance? Now that is the question.

          Pac and his team have done themselve no favors with the way they have acted with this whole situation, but I think he is clean....

          But juicing in seven days? Educate yourself please...
          So then why deny the drug tests up to the fight day?! Why come up with 10 different excuses every time (needle phobia, too busy to do tests, not bending over for Floyd's rules etc.)

          There are hundreds of Performance Enhancing Drugs out there....

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          • Alibata
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            #165
            Originally posted by joelab75
            if you take the PEDS in the 7 day cut off how can that be useful to Manny? its the end of the training session. i thought you have to get used to it to become effective? and how Pac can get away with it if both boxers get tested just right after the fight?

            what if the fight ends in 2 rounds how can he get away with the drug testing? if he washed up the PEDS before the fight how can that be useful? im totally confuse here. I MEAN SERIOUSLY I NEED SERIOUS ANSWER from PEDS EXPERT here. bias aside.

            edit: because as far as i know Floyd asked for a 14 day cut off the first time. *****s were behind him but when Pac called his bluff Floyd changed it to no cut off date. and *****s were saying 14 days was not enough or even 7 days cut off. whats up with that?
            This is why many *****s would rather stick with the lie that Manny is not willing to test at all. They are delusional in thinking the ball is on Manny's court because they have this idea that most people are in agreement with their opinion. I mentioned earlier that most even actors, politicians, business men, media, athletes, even fellow boxers have opined that Floyd is ducking Pacquiao as opposed to floyd supporters who consist of Floyd, Floyd sr., Roger, Teddy Atlas, *****s on Message boards, and black writers from grand rapids press and that dude with the false claim about the emails. Wow, *****s really have the credible support and popular opinion right?

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            • FLYBOY
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              #166
              Players have attempted to gain chemical advantages in baseball since the earliest days of the sport. In 1889, for example, pitcher Pud Galvin became the first baseball player to be widely known for his use of performance-enhancing substances.[6] Galvin was a user and vocal proponent of the Brown-Séquard Elixir, a testosterone supplement derived from the testicles of live animals such as dogs and guinea pigs.[6]







              ATHLETES WERE USING PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS AS EARLY AS 1889.

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              • FLYBOY
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                #167
                LOL. Pacquiao could be on some DOG TESTICLE DIET. To get some Testosterone out of them. ahahaha it's a joke guys. I cannot prove it but you never know.

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                • Alibata
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by FLYBOY
                  So then why deny the drug tests up to the fight day?! Why come up with 10 different excuses every time (needle phobia, too busy to do tests, not bending over for Floyd's rules etc.)

                  There are hundreds of Performance Enhancing Drugs out there....
                  Because 7 days is good enough though I think Manny agreed all the way. Regardless, Manny thinks that it will affect him physically and so in thinking that, even if it doesn't, will affect him mentally. Floyd wants to fight fair fight and so does Manny. Many doctors have stated that taking blood too close to the fight has health risks involved such as hematoma which supports Manny's concern of a possible physical effect on his body. Manny has concerns just like Floyd so why give in to Floyd's when most are in agreement that 7 days is good enough with 1 directly after the fight. Manny has compromised why can't floyd?

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by joelab75
                    if you take the PEDS in the 7 day cut off how can that be useful to Manny? its the end of the training session. i thought you have to get used to it to become effective? and how Pac can get away with it if both boxers get tested just right after the fight?
                    Depends on what you use.

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                    • Alibata
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Depends on what you use.
                      Yeahhhhh.... Tapering down in 7 days... You have said before that 7 days was good. I guess you are aware of of that. If it was 1 day before the fight I suspect the *****s will conjure up some effective Ped that can be utilized in a day. LOL, you are funny. In addition if 7 days will quell the concerns of Manny and some doctors, that too close to the fight could have physical consequences, and of most non-paranoid individuals why not just do the 7 days and get it on?
                      Last edited by Alibata; 12-06-2010, 12:15 PM.

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