Am I wrong for suspecting Manny?

[Alibata]

**NOBODY** gets KO'd by a John Doe at 113 lbs as a grown man 3 months shy of his 21st birthday and then moves up 9 divisions to jr middle and KO's a guy like Margarito with a great chin. **NOBODY** If you say manny is legit then you condone what he's doing or he'd duping you. Have a great night guys!

I bet you are hating on people you know who made it further then you... If everybody thought like you nothing in this world would have been accomplished. You wonder why people who are successful in life, reporters (60 minutes, time, etc), actors (mark wahlberg, Denzel, etc), singers (Beyonce, Jay Z etc) Billionares (Donald trump, mark cuban, etc ), Politicians (Clinton, Reid,) etc, etc, etc. are all praise for Pacquiao? Because they live life and find that nothing is an excuse, and people are extraordinary.. You on the other hand might just be pathetic. LOL, that is why nobody with common sense or with an education would find you remotely credible. Thats the truth. I don't buy into "that is impossible to do" b.s... What Pacquiao did is completely logical and not even closely beyond the realm of possiblity. You my friend must be an underachiever because you project your own limitations on others. That alone kills your argument because for every dude that uses, the phrase "it is impossible" as an excuse, and that is the whole premise of your imaginative assertion, there are people out their with a brain and with the competence to know you are nothing more then a tax burden to hard working people..

[TheMexHurricane]

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++i already give you conte's quote that it can be done but then you insist on your flawed reasoning saying "believe is not a proof" then lets go by this logic -do you have a legit proof that paC is on peds ?? dont give pac got koed at 113 lbs coz that is bs and not a proof coz any boxer can get koed if drained....and didn't you know that steroids will make you strong but make your reflexes slow?? how come pac is very fast??? go figure it out

Yeah, PED's make you slower that's why ben Johnson and every sprinter who took them got faster. LOL!

[Plaster...Sad.]

Who knows man...

[strykr619]

I'm noticing that is anybody questions Manny, they get attacked. But is it not human to suspect a fighter who refuses drug testing in this era (The way Manny/Team Pac refused).

I'm no PED expert, Dr or pro boxer. But I am a 25 year boxing fan, so i know a lil bit about the sport i love.
I've watched Manny since the blonde streak days, been a fan from then on. But what I'm not a fan of is how the refusal went down, all the reasons/excuses just made me pause for a second.

I'm told that "I don't know anything about how PEDs work" & "If Manny was juicing, he'd have gotten caught by now"...
Well the first part is kinda true, but It has made me a lil curious on the suject so I looked into it.

So can any of you just answer just 3 questions........

1. What are the charicteristics of HGH, EPO......?

2. Does Manny display any of these charicteristics....? (Mind you, don't say Manny has always displayed this or that. Mind you, I've been watching him as long if not longer that most on NSB. And Manny has definatly kicked it up a few notches).

3. If the way Manny has evolved is not by the use of any PEDs, what else could it be....?

We bash Barry Bonds for basically doing the same thing Manny is doing, is it a nationality thing? Or do you just hate Floyd sooo much that anything he says is dismissed and you just wanna see him beat regaurdless of how.

Not a hate thread, just trying to get how him/Bob Arum refusing testing in the PED era gets a pass...
I've never put anybody on ignore nor have I ever done the corny red k thing, but I have yet to get any solid answers. Just emmotional, I love manny, I hate Floyd posts...
Anybody wanna be honest?

Here is a simple question for you. Since when did Manny refuse to do tests REQUIRED by the State AC's sanctioning each fight he does?

He never has. He has always tested clean.

If you think the drug testing currently used by Athletic Commissions is not sufficient enough then boxers and fans as a whole need to take it up with them.

The fact that people actually bought the Mayweather camp's bs DESPITE the fact that Floyd in the past used painkillers to numb his hands before fights is hypocritical.

The last straw is when Pacquaio's camp called Mayweather's bluff and agreed to his demands, Mayweather now was on "vacation" and since then got himself into legal trouble and is prolly going to jail (considering he has a prior assault conviction on his record, Nevada will lock him up if he is found guilty this time around.)

In the end, Until Pacquaio if ever tests DIRTY he is innocent of any PED claims.

[TheMexHurricane]

I bet you are hating on people you know who made it further then you... If everybody thought like you nothing in this world would have been accomplished. You wonder why people who are successful in life, reporters (60 minutes, time, etc), actors (mark wahlberg, Denzel, etc), singers (Beyonce, Jay Z etc) Billionares (Donald trump, mark cuban, etc ), Politicians (Clinton, Reid,) etc, etc, etc. are all praise for Pacquiao? Because they live life and find that nothing is an excuse, and people are extraordinary.. You on the other hand might just be pathetic. LOL, that is why nobody with common sense or with an education would find you remotely credible. Thats the truth. I don't buy into "that is impossible to do" b.s... What Pacquiao did is completely logical and not even closely beyond the realm of possiblity. You my friend must be an underachiever because you project your own limitations on others. That alone kills your argument because for every dude that uses, the phrase "it is impossible" as an excuse, and that is the whole premise of your imaginative assertion, there are people out their with a brain and with the competence to know you are nothing more then a tax burden to hard working people..

No rebuttal their again! LOL! I'll let you go sleepy nighty night now ok little aliB-E-T-A. You can try again tomorrow but you won't be able to beat me. You've never been able to beat me and you *never* will. LOL! Pac's on roids. Nobody gets KO'd by a John Doe at 113 lbs as a grown man 3 months shy of 21 and then moves up 9 divisions and brutalizes a guy with a great chin like Margarito. *NOBODY* You have no answer and you aren't getting one-- and insults and deflections won't change the truth. Stay your ass on here and keep trying all night by yourself as punishment for having an inferior mind. You won't break through my logic because you don't have enough brain power. That's why you're angry and that's why I'm smiling.

[jack2x]

Yeah, PED's make you slower that's why ben Johnson and every sprinter who took them got faster. LOL!

peds is universal word for drugs used in sport... i mention "STEROIDS"...try again! its now imminent that you'll going to get owned

[TheMexHurricane]

I bet you are hating on people you know who made it further then you... If everybody thought like you nothing in this world would have been accomplished. You wonder why people who are successful in life, reporters (60 minutes, time, etc), actors (mark wahlberg, Denzel, etc), singers (Beyonce, Jay Z etc) Billionares (Donald trump, mark cuban, etc ), Politicians (Clinton, Reid,) etc, etc, etc. are all praise for Pacquiao? Because they live life and find that nothing is an excuse, and people are extraordinary.. You on the other hand might just be pathetic. LOL, that is why nobody with common sense or with an education would find you remotely credible. Thats the truth. I don't buy into "that is impossible to do" b.s... What Pacquiao did is completely logical and not even closely beyond the realm of possiblity. You my friend must be an underachiever because you project your own limitations on others. That alone kills your argument because for every dude that uses, the phrase "it is impossible" as an excuse, and that is the whole premise of your imaginative assertion, there are people out their with a brain and with the competence to know you are nothing more then a tax burden to hard working people..

lastly, when I said "go ask mommy" I didn't mean it as an insult because you stay at home. You stay at home not because you're lazy or dumb, you're extraordinarily intellegent and you're very educated but just have that little problem. Everybody has their flaws. I actually happen to have more than most. I was just talking **** and then realized afterwards you might take it wrong. have a great night my friend.

[TheMexHurricane]

peds is universal word for drugs used in sport... i mention "STEROIDS"...try again! its now imminent that you'll going to get owned

LOL! Shut the hell up and go to sleep. The only thing that is imminent you fool is that I'll beat you. have a good night my friend. I'm privileged to be able to compete with you.

[ADP02]

Compare what Pac did to Margarito, who's a big welter with a **GREAT** chin and compare what he did to Barrera, only a Banty 6 divisions smaller with a **VERY GOOD** chin that was KO'd by banty Junior Jones. And Manny kept his speed or got faster while **GAINING 20 LBS OF SOLID MUSCLE AS AN ADULT**. And refusing the PED tests suggested by Floyd. It doesn't pass the smell test. Recall that until recently athletes were taking roids without anyone knowing at all. Who knows what he might be doing. C'mon guys, wake the **** up! Y'all know boxing history. What Manny is doing is not possible. He's getting over on you or you condone what he's doing.

So Manny is that good that he is able to do the impossible, hey? Well, thanks for admitting how good Manny is! lol!

[jack2x]

LOL! Shut the hell up and go to sleep. The only thing that is imminent you fool is that I'll beat you. have a good night my friend. I'm privileged to be able to compete with you.

now you wanted me out and to shut up why? is it bcoz i'm exposing your flawed arguments???hahahah! i'm still having a good time bantering with you.