Am I wrong for suspecting Manny?

[AssasinKing]

If you question it its no problem, people think usain bolts on PED's...people think loads of athletes are....

But its when people say "He IS on...." then its like...stfu, can u prove it? Waht makes you so sure?

Im not saying he is, and im not saying he isnt on them...but from what ive seen, ive seen a better technical/strong fighter, batter opponents with his skill....

If he had no skill and was still ****ing all these opponents out then yeah it wouldnt be normal

But its like...he has the skill/footwork/power/technique....

I think hes legit...thts my opinion

[IMDAZED]

the cotto example, does that have to do with strength or toughness? im not sure how you can say pac is stronger than these guys cuz i dont think so.

i think pacs speed and skills are the difference here. its not like he walking thru these guys, hes outboxing them.

Being tough is one thing - strength is another. And the big revelation from that Cotto bout was that Manny was stronger.

[$tate of Mind]

I'm noticing that is anybody questions Manny, they get attacked. But is it not human to suspect a fighter who refuses drug testing in this era (The way Manny/Team Pac refused).

I'm no PED expert, Dr or pro boxer. But I am a 25 year boxing fan, so i know a lil bit about the sport i love.
I've watched Manny since the blonde streak days, been a fan from then on. But what I'm not a fan of is how the refusal went down, all the reasons/excuses just made me pause for a second.

I'm told that "I don't know anything about how PEDs work" & "If Manny was juicing, he'd have gotten caught by now"...
Well the first part is kinda true, but It has made me a lil curious on the suject so I looked into it.

So can any of you just answer just 3 questions........

1. What are the charicteristics of HGH, EPO......?

2. Does Manny display any of these charicteristics....? (Mind you, don't say Manny has always displayed this or that. Mind you, I've been watching him as long if not longer that most on NSB. And Manny has definatly kicked it up a few notches).

3. If the way Manny has evolved is not by the use of any PEDs, what else could it be....?

We bash Barry Bonds for basically doing the same thing Manny is doing, is it a nationality thing? Or do you just hate Floyd sooo much that anything he says is dismissed and you just wanna see him beat regaurdless of how.

Not a hate thread, just trying to get how him/Bob Arum refusing testing in the PED era gets a pass...
I've never put anybody on ignore nor have I ever done the corny red k thing, but I have yet to get any solid answers. Just emmotional, I love manny, I hate Floyd posts...
Anybody wanna be honest?

No you're not wrong, 90% of the posters on this site are *******s, that's all you need to know.

[iNDOLiFER]

No you're not wrong, 90% of the posters on this site are *******s, that's all you need to know.

aye brotha man whats with the name calling my nigg?

[Alibata]

No you're not wrong, 90% of the posters on this site are *******s, that's all you need to know.

And 95% of everyone else agrees with the *******s. Floyd is the coward.

[straightleft]

These *****s suspecting Pac taking PEDs to beat his opponents are the same idiots saying Pac only fights old, shot, weight drained, coming of from losses, flat footed, made to order, smart match making, etc...blah...blah...blah....are you ****ing serious? So this PED is for what? To slow down his opponents movements?

[cixthree]

These *****s suspecting Pac taking PEDs to beat his opponents are the same idiots saying Pac only fights old, shot, weight drained, coming of from losses, flat footed, made to order, smart match making, etc...blah...blah...blah....are you ****ing serious? So this PED is for what? To slow down his opponents movements?

I hope you were being sarcastic, cause that was a good one (I get it, lol)

[jack2x]

Yeah!!! You're so brilliant that you keep "exposing" my "flawed arguments" without even having to address them!!!! Your rebuttals are sooooooooo intellectually amazing that they're beyond anybodys ability to grasp them!!!! They are definitely not dumb as S*IT!!!! Definitely not!!!!

already did addressed them in my previous post..you even tried to pull a fast one on me by sarcastically stating "peds" (ben johnson) instead of steroid which i clearly stated..

[Evilution KO]

I think everyone should take olympic style RANDOM testing before a fight, not just Pac or Mayweather. From golden gloves to the pros. If you have nothing to hide then you have no problem. If needles "scare" you or "make you weak" then try another pass time.... like ballet. The steroid use in ALL sports is getting REALLY old and is a slap in the face to the history of the sport. So you wanna lace up and punch somebody in the face? well then take RANDOM blood tests.

[FLYBOY]

I think everyone should take olympic style RANDOM testing before a fight, not just Pac or Mayweather. From golden gloves to the pros. If you have nothing to hide then you have no problem. If needles "scare" you or "make you weak" then try another pass time.... like ballet. The steroid use in ALL sports is getting REALLY old and is a slap in the face to the history of the sport. So you wanna lace up and punch somebody in the face? well then take RANDOM blood tests.

Agreed. This will never happen though unfortunately. There is too much money because people want to see fast, explosive athletes. And you get fast and explosive athletes from drugs. Of course hard work and dedication and genetics play a big part, but without the drugs they won't be as fast and explosive.