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  • MARKBNLV
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    #11
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    This is the reason i dont like NSB no more. How come Pac is the only one in history who has fought Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Hatton, and is accused of picking and choosing his opponents like to make it easy on himself?

    Who has margarito ever fought and then was accused of picking and choosing Margarito for an easy night? I know SSM was never accused of picking and choosing because he fought Margarito, neither was sergio martinez when he fought Margarito.
    He fights men coming off of losses or severely weight drained,fight Martinez now and i will be at the head of the pack saying he is the best of the generation.Until then he is just another spoiled rich prick hand picking opponents and demanding ludacris stipulations.
    Last edited by MARKBNLV; 12-04-2010, 09:14 AM.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #12
      On the real, neither Floyd or Pacquiao are better than B-Hop or Roy, atleast in my opinion. I really don't think much of the two anymore, one is very talented and has the ability to accomplish more but is too inactive/ doesn't seem to have that drive anymore, and the other seems to go for the worse options. This is why I like Martinez, I hope he continues to dominate and put the other two to shame, which he's already doing.
      Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 12-04-2010, 10:01 AM.

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      • FloydTBE
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        #13
        never give up

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        • Walt Liquor
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          #14
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
          On the real, neither Floyd or Pacquiao are better than B-Hop or Roy, atleast in my opinion. I really don't think much about the two anymore, one is very talented and has the ability to accomplish more but is too inactive/ doesn't seem to have that drive anymore, and the other seems to go for the worse options. This is why I like Martinez, I hope he continues to dominate and put the other two to shame, which he's already doing.

          One could also argue that jmm is putting them to shame.

          I can't see Floyd or manny stepping up 2 divisions to face a great fighter at their weight while leapfrogging on division entirely and taking 0 tune up to acclimate himself at the weight.

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #15
            Originally posted by Walt Liquor
            One could also argue that jmm is putting them to shame.

            I can't see Floyd or manny stepping up 2 divisions to face a great fighter at their weight while leapfrogging on division entirely and taking 0 tune up to acclimate himself at the weight.

            I also don't recall Floyd or manny being in a hurry to fight casa.

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            • Khalid X
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              #16
              Originally posted by ThunderWolf
              I agree, but:

              Mosley > Berto
              Mosley > JMM

              Mosley will defeat these two at 147.

              I think Mosley vs MP is good while waiting for Floyd, and will do better PVPwise than MP vs Margarito.
              This is what I don't get either. While Manny carves all three up....Mosley, contrary to what most people believe, will actually put up a better performance than all three.

              People need to let 2008 go because no way in hell is Marquez vs Pacquiao close at this point in their careers. I also don't see why JMM deserves ****. This is the 4th time he has fvkked himself over as far as getting a fight with Manny and Team Pacquiao is just tired of his b.s.

              Berto....well that dude gets destroyed easily by Manny. So does Shane but atleast Shane has a chin and is strong enough to clinch and slow Manny dlwn at times. I don't like any of those fights but people need to realize the only real challenges are Martinez and Floyd and Manny isn't taking the Martinez fight until either he faces Floyd, or realizes the fight is dead once and for all.

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              • DarchinyFAN
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                #17
                Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
                That's not why Mosley was never accused of cherrypicking!!I suggest U take a long hard look at Mosley's resume after he left from his lightweight iron fist domination!!Mosley has been in the ring with more elite fighters than anyone else since coming up to welterweight & even 154 real talk!!
                Its an elite collection, but not really....

                Oscar De La Hoya ventures were both big fights and Oscar was still elite, but no one turns down a fight with De La Hoya, cause even if you lose the profile and money you receive just for fighting him.......

                Vernon Forrest was considered just the other champion when Mosley fought him, people recognized that he had tools and skills in the ring, but who had he really proven it against? Mosley pretty much made Forrest career.

                Winky Wright was much like Vernon Forrest just an above average career pre-Mosley (best performance was against Vargas), he had a better career than Forrest post Mosley, but Mosley didn't have a crystal ball to predict that Wright would blow up and become big. So you can't say Mosley was taking on some sort of tour de force at the time.

                Vargas was pretty much crap post De La Hoya.

                Cotto chose Mosley as a stepping stone fight as much as Shane chose Cotto. That was more of a mutual decision.

                I will give him credit for Margarito.

                Mayweather chose Mosley coming off the failed negotiations with Pac. Credit to Mosley for accepting, but its not like he picked the fight, or was in much of a position to turn it down. I know Shane did some barking, but he was considered to be on vacation post-Margarito.

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                • Khalid X
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MARKBNLV
                  He fights men coming off of losses or severely weight drained,fight Martinez now and i will be at the head of the pack saying he is the best of the generation.Until then he is just another spoiled rich prick hand picking opponents and demanding ludacris stipulations.
                  Man these excuses are weak. The only opponent Manny beat that was weight drained was Oscar and who's fault is that? I mean you said you boxed so I'm sure you are aware that it's each fighters responsibility to show up in their best form. Blaming Manny for that is as bad as Blaming the Klitschko for their opponents not training hard and showing up fat and sloppy as hell.

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                    #19
                    I am no longer a fan of Floyd.

                    To be honest, I dont think he's "scared" physically of anyone, but he's obsessed with his undefeated record. If he lost, he couldn't handle it, similar to Hamed and Trinidad.

                    Also..

                    He once was a beast, but somewhere along the line he lost interest. He's no longer a fighter, he doesn't have the killer instinct. He only fights to support his "lavish" life style. He doesn't want it anymore, but he can't make that much money doing anything else.

                    I would support him if he fought Pac, tests or no tests. But until that happens, the hell with him.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                      One could also argue that jmm is putting them to shame.

                      I can't see Floyd or manny stepping up 2 divisions to face a great fighter at their weight while leapfrogging on division entirely and taking 0 tune up to acclimate himself at the weight.
                      He's definitely showing more bravado than the two.

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