Attendance Figures For Some Recent Fights....

[Gino Ros]

I like to see facts and even with your agenda with Manny and Mayweather, I have enjoyed looking at the numbers.

Golf is a rich mans sport, everyone knows that. However if you look at NFL, NBA, Soccer divisons in England, Spain, Italy, they are all on 1 Mil easily too.

Even France, Holland, Russia may hit 1 mil dollars for the top 50.

If I have an agenda, it isn't against manny. At all. It is against Arum.

For example, please explain to me how Floyd is guaranteed $10 mil for marquez...but Pac is guaranteed $7.5 mil for Cotto.

How is Floyd g'd up for $22 million for mosley, but manny gets $7.5 mil for Cotto?

I just wish PacLand would stop swallowing what Arum tells them. Just because Bob is always hugging Manny and goes to manny's birthday parties doesn't mean he is operating in Manny's best interests.

But , I get it: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[jrosales13]

Bernardo,

I don't like wasting my time with all this digging for PPV information crap.

But, since you like it so much, I got a job for you.

Get me Oscar De la Hoya average on HBO PPV buys.

Also bet me Floyd average on HBO PPV buys.

And, Pac average on HBO PPV buys.

Thanks

P.S Are you fucking Dominican or Italian?

[Gino Ros]

You know who's ****ed? Paul Williams.

The Total Purse for Williams-Cintron was $1.8 million. Wanna know how much that fight made at the gate?


$136K.

[tredh]

This is why American parents with athletically gifted children push their kids into other sports. Boxing is mostly for the kids that didnt have apparent athletic gifts, and just happened to get into the sport.

And that itself is happening less and less every year.

I totally diagree with this. Kids get pushed to those sports because they are viewed as a quicker and easier path to get rich. Also you don't hear about kids getting college scholarships for boxing like you do for football, basketball, baseball etc. Also back in the day you had more 2 parent households ain't no woman gonna take her son or sons to boxing and watch someone punch them in the face and body. There used to be more boxing gyms in local neighborhoods also. Most boxers are thought of as being ****** and nobody wants to be looked at that way whether its true or not.

It has nothing to do with athletic gifts and how soon they are recognized. It is about the fastest and easiest path to riches and boxing is not promoted as being that path.

[Gino Ros]

Bernardo,

I don't like wasting my time with all this digging for PPV information crap.

But, since you like it so much, I got a job for you.

1) gino

2) what's with the hostility? all we are doing is discussing the economics of the sport without discrediting one fighter or another.

3)

Delahoya-Mayweather: 2.46 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 2: 1.99 MIL

Tyson-Lewis: 1.8 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 1: 1.59 MIL

Tyson- McNeely: 1.55 MIL

Mayweather – Mosley: 1.4 MIL
Holyfield - Foreman: 1.4 MIL

DelaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4 MIL

Tyson-Bruno: 1.37 MIL

Tyson-Ruddock 2: 1.25 MIL

Delahoya – Pacquiao: 1.25 Mil
Pacquiao – Cotto: 1.25 MIL

Holyfield-Lewis 1: 1.2 MIL

Pacquiao – Margarito : 1.15 MIL

Holyfield-Douglas: 1.06 MIL

Tyson -Selden: 1.01 MIL

Mayweather – Marquez: 1.1 MIL

DelaHoya- Hopkins - 1.0 Mil

DelaHoya - Mosley 2 : 975K

Tyson- Ruddock 1: 959K

Mayweather - Hatton: 950K

DelaHoya- Vargas - 940K

DelaHoya-Mayorga - 935K

Holyfield-Bowe 1: 929K

Pacquiao – Hatton: 825K

Whitaker – Chavez: 740K

Delahoya-Whitaker: 720K

Tyson-Botha: 700K

Pacquiao – Clottey: 700K

DelaHoya - Mosley : 585K

Delahoya- Quartey: 570K

Delahoya-Camacho: 560K

Delahoya-Chavez 2: 525K

Trinidad- Wright: 520K

Trinidad - Vargas: 520K

Trinidad – Jones: 500K

Trinidad-Hopkins: 475K

Tyson-Golota: 450K

Lewis/Tua - 420K

Jones-Tarver 3 : 415K

Mosley-Vargas: 415K

Taylor-Hopkins 2: 410K

DelaHoya - castillejo: 400K

Pacquiao – Marquez 2: 400K

Mayweather-Judah : 390K

Delahoya-Sturm: 380K

Mosley- Vargas 2 375K

Taylor-Hopkins : 370K

Gatti-Mayweather: 360K

Trinidad-Joppy: 350K

Lewis - Grant: 350K

Hopkins- Tarver: 350K

Pacquiao – Barrera: 350K

Delahoya-Campas: 350K

Morales- Pacquiao 3: 350K

Morales- pacquiao 2: 350k

Morales-pacquiao: 340K

Mayweather- Baldomir: 340K

Delahoya-Gonzales: 345K

Cotto - Mosley: 340K (really)

Morales- Barrera 1,2,3: 300k-330K each

Delahoya- Ruelas: 330K

Hopkins – Wright : 305K

Vargas – Mayorga : 300K

Taylor-Pavlik 2 – 250K

Delahoya- W. Rivera: 240K

Calzaghe – Jones: 225K

Cotto – Judah: 225K

Margarito - Cintron (Mosley): 225K

Delahoya-G. Hernandez: 220K

Pacquiao – Solis: 200K (unconfirmed)

Ruiz-Golota: 175K

Pacquiao – Diaz: 175K

Barrera-Juarez: 165K

Jones, Jr- Harding: 125K

Klitschko- Williams: 120K

Barrera-Peden: 110K

Morales – Diaz: 100K

Cotto-Malignaggi : 90K

Barrera-Fana: 75K

Holyfield – Ibragimov: 75K

Chavez, Jr – sanchez: 70K

Rahman-Maskaev: 60K

Margarito-Gomez: 35K

Jones – Hanshaw: 30K

[Gordon Gekko]

If I have an agenda, it isn't against manny. At all. It is against Arum.

For example, please explain to me how Floyd is guaranteed $10 mil for marquez...but Pac is guaranteed $7.5 mil for Cotto.

How is Floyd g'd up for $22 million for mosley, but manny gets $7.5 mil for Cotto?

I just wish PacLand would stop swallowing what Arum tells them. Just because Bob is always hugging Manny and goes to manny's birthday parties doesn't mean he is operating in Manny's best interests.

But , I get it: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

It's insane the shit they swallow from Arum.

This is the same guy that not too long ago told everyone he made Caballero a 150k offer to fight Juanma only to be called on his bluff by Leon Margules (Cab's promoter at the time) that no offer was ever made. I'm just using this example because it's recent and shows how much of a liar the guy is.

There's been tons of other times.

It's irritating to hear Pac fans say that Arum was indeed trying to make a fight with Mayweather. Arum's track record proves different. Arum doesn't care about the fans or what they really want to see. He's worried about his pockets.

Let's go back to March when this Mayweather fight was supposed to take place. Why would Arum, who's known for protecting his fighters, risk his biggest draw (Pac) against someone he's favored to lose against (Mayweather)? As much money as Mayweather and Pacquiao are going to make for that one fight, Arum actually made tons more by making in-house fights with Clottey, Margarito, and I'm sure we'll see a Cotto rematch down the road if Cotto (another guy Arum likes to keep in-house, save a possible Martinez match) keeps winning.

[jrosales13]

1) gino

2) what's with the hostility? all we are doing is discussing the economics of the sport without discrediting one fighter or another.

3)

Delahoya-Mayweather: 2.46 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 2: 1.99 MIL

Tyson-Lewis: 1.8 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 1: 1.59 MIL

Tyson- McNeely: 1.55 MIL

Mayweather – Mosley: 1.4 MIL
Holyfield - Foreman: 1.4 MIL

DelaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4 MIL

Tyson-Bruno: 1.37 MIL

Tyson-Ruddock 2: 1.25 MIL

Delahoya – Pacquiao: 1.25 Mil
Pacquiao – Cotto: 1.25 MIL

Holyfield-Lewis 1: 1.2 MIL

Pacquiao – Margarito : 1.15 MIL

Holyfield-Douglas: 1.06 MIL

Tyson -Selden: 1.01 MIL

Mayweather – Marquez: 1.1 MIL

DelaHoya- Hopkins - 1.0 Mil

DelaHoya - Mosley 2 : 975K

Tyson- Ruddock 1: 959K

Mayweather - Hatton: 950K

DelaHoya- Vargas - 940K

DelaHoya-Mayorga - 935K

Holyfield-Bowe 1: 929K

Pacquiao – Hatton: 825K

Whitaker – Chavez: 740K

Delahoya-Whitaker: 720K

Tyson-Botha: 700K

Pacquiao – Clottey: 700K

DelaHoya - Mosley : 585K

Delahoya- Quartey: 570K

Delahoya-Camacho: 560K

Delahoya-Chavez 2: 525K

Trinidad- Wright: 520K

Trinidad - Vargas: 520K

Trinidad – Jones: 500K

Trinidad-Hopkins: 475K

Tyson-Golota: 450K

Lewis/Tua - 420K

Jones-Tarver 3 : 415K

Mosley-Vargas: 415K

Taylor-Hopkins 2: 410K

DelaHoya - castillejo: 400K

Pacquiao – Marquez 2: 400K

Mayweather-Judah : 390K

Delahoya-Sturm: 380K

Mosley- Vargas 2 375K

Taylor-Hopkins : 370K

Gatti-Mayweather: 360K

Trinidad-Joppy: 350K

Lewis - Grant: 350K

Hopkins- Tarver: 350K

Pacquiao – Barrera: 350K

Delahoya-Campas: 350K

Morales- Pacquiao 3: 350K

Morales- pacquiao 2: 350k

Morales-pacquiao: 340K

Mayweather- Baldomir: 340K

Delahoya-Gonzales: 345K

Cotto - Mosley: 340K (really)

Morales- Barrera 1,2,3: 300k-330K each

Delahoya- Ruelas: 330K

Hopkins – Wright : 305K

Vargas – Mayorga : 300K

Taylor-Pavlik 2 – 250K

Delahoya- W. Rivera: 240K

Calzaghe – Jones: 225K

Cotto – Judah: 225K

Margarito - Cintron (Mosley): 225K

Delahoya-G. Hernandez: 220K

Pacquiao – Solis: 200K (unconfirmed)

Ruiz-Golota: 175K

Pacquiao – Diaz: 175K

Barrera-Juarez: 165K

Jones, Jr- Harding: 125K

Klitschko- Williams: 120K

Barrera-Peden: 110K

Morales – Diaz: 100K

Cotto-Malignaggi : 90K

Barrera-Fana: 75K

Holyfield – Ibragimov: 75K

Chavez, Jr – sanchez: 70K

Rahman-Maskaev: 60K

Margarito-Gomez: 35K

Jones – Hanshaw: 30K

1) Is Bernardo. so stop it

2) Because, you're a troll, thread like this is cool, but you have to do this kind of threads to prove you not a troll to me.

3) Was Pac-Solis HBO PPV? I don't think so... I just want HBO PPV events. Are all those Oscar HBO PPV events? I think they're but just want to make sure.

4) Was Pacquiao-Barrera 2 on reg HBO? Not on HBO PPV? I don't see it here...

5) Thanks again

[Gino Ros]

but you have to do this kind of threads to prove you not a troll to me.

:

I apologize...but not a major objective.

[jrosales13]

I apologize...but not a major objective.

Pacquiao-Barrera 2 was on HBO PPV

Pacquiao-Solis was a Top Rank independent PPV, which was not a bad card by the way, it had Arce-Mijares, Viloria-Sosa, and JCC Jr, and Victor Ortiz were also on the card.

Anyways, I asked you for one favor and you couldn't even do that right

[Gordon Gekko]

Pacquiao-Barrera 2 was on HBO PPV

Pacquiao-Solis was a Top Rank independent PPV, which was not a bad card by the way, it had Arce-Mijares, Viloria-Sosa, and JCC Jr, and Victor Ortiz were also on the card.

Anyways, I asked you for one favor and you couldn't even do that right

Oscar De La Hoya PPV history

Rafael Ruelas - 330,000 buys
Genaro Hernandez - 220,000 buys
Miguel Angel Gonzalez - 345,000 buys
Pernell Whitaker - 720,000 buys
Hector Camacho - 560,000 buys
Wilfredo Rivera - 240,000 buys
Julio Cesar Chavez II - 525,000 buys
Ike Quartey - 570K
Felix Trinidad -1.4 million buys
Fernando Vargas - 935,000 buys
Javier Castillejo - 400,000 buys
Yory Boy Campas - 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley II - 950,000 buys
Felix Sturm - 380,000 buys
Bernard Hopkins - 1 million buys
Ricardo Mayorga - 935,000 buys
Floyd Mayweather Jr. - 2.4 million buys
Manny Pacquiao - 1.25 million buys


I believe TS has all of Mayweather and Pacman's PPVs...