Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao vs Marquez Will Be at 147 or No Fight

[WESS]

Marquez weighed 145 Saturday after having weighed in at 134.5 Friday. Pacquaio weighed 148 fight night with Margarito.

So basically I dont see much difference here. Both come in at welterweight fight night... I dont see anything wrong with this fight being made at 147... Both guys are almost the same weight anyway.

There is no advantage or disadvantage to any fighters when they are of the same weight during the night when they fight.

Are you new to boxing? Mayweather already did this but since it was Mayweather they crucified him for clowning JMM. Now Pac wants to force JMM up to 147 and its OK? Double standards.

Let's not forget that Pac didnt even win his WW title AT 147, yet he wants a 135lber to fight AT 147? What does that say?

Why do we hold such low standards for Pac?

[KingOfTheRng]

Okay but 145 is not the welterweight limit its 147 and two pounds makes alot of difference.

[LeadUppercut]

when pac agreed for a fight at 147, marquez begged for catchweight at 144. there is no reason for marquez to demand for it since pac was just 144.6 during the margarito weight in. it just shows that marquez got scared when pac answered back his silly bluff...

Are you still here you boxing genius..... ?

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Look at the ****** that Gary just exposed.....

****** people resort to name calling and childish acts when they run out of things to say. Bring in your man to fight pac at 147 and tell him not to be scared by asking for a catchweight!!!

LMFAO

Do these guys even know what they're saying ?

This guy " black knight " is a Manny fan.....
..... and yet, he thinks that only cowards demand catch-weights !!

LMFAO I just pee'd.

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[LeadUppercut]

Why should Pacman go down to 140?? Marquez brings ZERO on the table. Pacman will decide and fight on his terms. Pacman vs Mosley becomes more exciting.

You fkn whiney assswipe......

What the hell does " brings ZERO on the table " have to do with the weight ?

IT IS A CLEAR MIS-MATCH AT 147, AND MANNY WOULD STILL HAVE A HUGE ADVANTAGE, EVEN AT 140.

How about, because it would be best for boxing?

How about, because it would be best for Manny's legacy?

How about, because it would be a fairer contest?

You don't give a **** about boxing you whiney little f@ggot.

The day that Manny "no balls" Pacquiao ever steps up, you are gone.

I can't stand you dishonest unreasonable ***wits.

[LeadUppercut]

serv, and Mr Truth, explain this.....

To all of the posters that know more about Manny's singing prowess than his boxing abilities, this will explain why it is a b1tch move for Manny Pacquiao to fight Juan Manuel Marquez at 147......

Obviously 135 is the limit for Marquez. The Katsidis fight that took place over the weekend, is the first fight where the career-featherweight Marquez has even looked close to being a genuine lightweight.

Clearly, even at 140, Manny would still have a HUGE advantage over the old-age pensioner Marquez..... and Manny can easily make 140.

Immediately prior to the Margarito fight, Freddie Roach and Alex Ariza both stated that Manny was a natural junior welterweight. Ariza said that they simply could not keep any weight on Manny, and that he had to eat 6 meals a day just to remain at welterweight.

Bob Arum's earlier comment that he did not want Manny to "starve" himself to make 143, was an absolute lie, and a total b1tch-move by Team Pacquiao.

Here is proof that Manny Pacquiao can eat "anything on the table" while training for a fight where he weighed in at 144.....
http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...t-middleweight
http://www.strengthspeedagility.com/...aining-program
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ible-physique/
http://www.pacquiao-margarito.com/en...-inner-circle/
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=621958
http://ezinearticles.com/?Boxing-Rin...nce&id=2546429
http://www.pacquiaovsmargarito.net/w...ight-pacquiao/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ment-at-first/
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...o-inner-circle

Here is the Team Pacquiao lie.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33333

Why did Team Pacquiao lie ?

Manny has a much bigger frame than the career-featherweight Marquez. At 147, Manny will be able to officially build up to 6-7lbs of muscle that Marquez' smaller frame simply cannot support.

The smaller Marquez cannot build anywhere near the same usable muscle-mass that Mannys larger frame can accomodate, let alone maintain that muscle-mass, let alone use that muscle-mass to the point where it directly affects your power.

On a smaller frame it is much more difficult to build usable power without it affecting your speed, and if Marquez does not maintain his speed, then it will turn out to be a bad mis-match.

Even at 140, Juan would only have a small chance against Manny - who would be much faster, and much stronger - and if Marquez does not maintain his speed, then he will have no chance at all, because his skills will not be effective against the faster/stronger Pacquiao.

The posters that are suggesting that the weight would make no difference, are being a little dishonest.

And the posters that are suggesting that the fight-night weights are the same anyway, are confusing water rehydration with usable muscle-mass. I am not an expert on Manny's fight-night weight, nor Juan's for that matter, but you posters that are suggesting there is no difference between the two, are confusing the water re-hydration of Marquez, with the official muscle-mass of Pacquiao.

The point is.....

Freddie Roach and Bob Arum are both well aware that Marquez cannot fight any higher than 135. If the fight was held at 140, then it would be a lightweight against a junior welterweight. But if the fight was held at 147, then it would be a lightweight vs a small welterweight.....

..... WHICH IS WHY THEY LIED !!

[LeadUppercut]

JMM is mad. But props to him, it's his fearlessness and attitude that's keeping the sport alive.

Marquez is a beast, he is willing to walk into a clear mismatch.

I got truckloads of respect for that lil Mexican Warrior.

That is how a true P4P champion should behave. In fact, I just wouldn't expect that out of my guy, no matter who my guy was.

A career-featherweight, past-his-prime, goes up 4 divisions higher than his optimum weight, and takes on the best P4P fighter in the world. And even though he was noticeably slower, and physically out-matched, to the point where he couldn't get his game going and compete with the skills of Mayweather, he still did better than 9/10 of Mayweathers previous opponents.

Now, he's damn near 40yo and he wants to go up to 147 to fight Manny.

He is the gift, that keeps on giving.

Anyone.....

Anywhere....

Anytime.....

What a fkn legend.

Manny on the other hand, won't even fight someone from within his own division without a catch-weight. At JMW, he won't fight anyone from within his own division even with a catch-weight.

And now, Manny will not fight the true P4P legend, unless the fight is at 147.

Manny is not content with the fact that even if the fight was at 140 he would still have every advantage over the much older, and much slower, near 40yo Marquez.

Manny cannot compete with the skills of Marquez, so he wants to gain every possible physical advantage before he will go anywhere near JMM.

P4P ?

Sickening.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

[al-Xander]

Pac has gone leaps and bounds in boxing skills.
Marquez has gone Marquez.
Pac would send Marquez's a$$ on the canvas
for good in a trilogy.

Marquez vs Khan is more competitive.

[al-Xander]

serv, and Mr Truth, explain this.....

To all of the posters that know more about Manny's singing prowess than his boxing abilities, this will explain why it is a b1tch move for Manny Pacquiao to fight Juan Manuel Marquez at 147......

This site never runs out of ironies.
You are a Floyd fan. Have you forgotten
about the Marquez-Mayweather fight?

[Horvo]

Manny has a much bigger frame than the career-featherweight Marquez. At 147, Manny will be able to officially build up to 6-7lbs of muscle that Marquez' smaller frame simply cannot support.

Pac has fought at 148 during his last five fights over the last two years. How is he going to add 7 pounds of muscle for this fight when he couldn't do it for any of the others? So he's going to come in fight night at 154? You're dreaming.

[Horvo]

Marquez is a beast, he is willing to walk into a clear mismatch.

I got truckloads of respect for that lil Mexican Warrior.

That is how a true P4P champion should behave. In fact, I just wouldn't expect that out of my guy, no matter who my guy was.

A career-featherweight, past-his-prime, goes up 4 divisions higher than his optimum weight, and takes on the best P4P fighter in the world. And even though he was noticeably slower, and physically out-matched, to the point where he couldn't get his game going and compete with the skills of Mayweather, he still did better than 9/10 of Mayweathers previous opponents.

Now, he's damn near 40yo and he wants to go up to 147 to fight Manny.

He is the gift, that keeps on giving.

Anyone.....

Anywhere....

Anytime.....

What a fkn legend.

Manny on the other hand, won't even fight someone from within his own division without a catch-weight. At JMW, he won't fight anyone from within his own division even with a catch-weight.

And now, Manny will not fight the true P4P legend, unless the fight is at 147.

Manny is not content with the fact that even if the fight was at 140 he would still have every advantage over the much older, and much slower, near 40yo Marquez.

Manny cannot compete with the skills of Marquez, so he wants to gain every possible physical advantage before he will go anywhere near JMM.

P4P ?

Sickening.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

So Marquez is such a hero for wanting to take on someone who weighs three pounds more than he does, (145-148), but Pac is a coward for not wanting to fight someone twenty pounds bigger? (148-168)