Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao vs Marquez Will Be at 147 or No Fight

[al-Xander]

Marquez is a beast, he is willing to walk into a clear mismatch.

Mayweather even cheated in the scales.
Yup. Mayweather/Marquez was a clear
mismatch.

Marquez needs the money. You're a genius, sir.

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So Marquez is such a hero for wanting to take on someone who weighs three pounds more than he does, (145-148), but Pac is a coward for not wanting to fight someone twenty pounds bigger? (148-168)

Yes, Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being to scared to actually fight a JMW.

Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he's a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage. Both are cowardly.

And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

[pbftxrs316]

are you guys finally getting it--i made a thread about cotto and margarito and of course manny fans bashed it just as i expected--manny shouldn't starve himself? he just came in at 144.5 his recent fight--while tony had to come in at 150 and rehydrate in just 24 hours to his comfortable weight----

i told you people that manny gave himself an advantage fighting smaller and keeping his speed--what do you think he's trying to do with jmm? take away all of the speed he has left--while manny fights comfortable---but he seems to fight comfortable at all of his fights---whether he weighs 144.5, 148, 147--while his foe weighs in at an uncomfortable setting---how it this fair--

and if manny gets credit for beating jmm at 147, then manny fans are dumber than i realized---and that's not saying too much anyway so who really cares huh?lol---

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are you guys finally getting it--i made a thread about cotto and margarito and of course manny fans bashed it just as i expected--manny shouldn't starve himself? he just came in at 144.5 his recent fight--while tony had to come in at 150 and rehydrate in just 24 hours to his comfortable weight----

i told you people that manny gave himself an advantage fighting smaller and keeping his speed--what do you think he's trying to do with jmm? take away all of the speed he has left--while manny fights comfortable---but he seems to fight comfortable at all of his fights---whether he weighs 144.5, 148, 147--while his foe weighs in at an uncomfortable setting---how it this fair--

Yep, it is clearly obvious that Manny is a junior welterweight.

And it is clearly obvious that Team Pacquiao lied. Marquez is a 40yo midget, and they are still piss-scared of him

Manny Pacquiao is a coward.

Immediately prior to the Margarito fight, Freddie Roach and Alex Ariza both stated that Manny was a natural junior welterweight. Ariza said that they simply could not keep any weight on Manny, and that he had to eat 6 meals a day just to remain at welterweight.

Bob Arum's earlier comment that he did not want Manny to "starve" himself to make 143, was an absolute lie, and a total b1tch-move by Team Pacquiao.

Here is proof that Manny Pacquiao can eat "anything on the table" while training for a fight where he weighed in at 144.....
http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...t-middleweight
http://www.strengthspeedagility.com/...aining-program
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ible-physique/
http://www.pacquiao-margarito.com/en...-inner-circle/
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=621958
http://ezinearticles.com/?Boxing-Rin...nce&id=2546429
http://www.pacquiaovsmargarito.net/w...ight-pacquiao/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ment-at-first/
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...o-inner-circle

Here is the Team Pacquiao lie.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33333

[AFighter4U]

Yes, Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being to scared to actually fight a JMW.

Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he's a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage. Both are cowardly.

And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

Pac fought Marg who weighed 165 lbs. MIDDLEWEIGHT.

By your definition, then not only is floyd a coward (actually twice a coward cuz he not only DEMANDED a catchweight, but CHEATED on an older, smaller guy) But also PWill, and a host of other ATGs such as sugar ray leonard who fought at catchweight.

Are you calling all of them cowards?

Did Pac actually say he'd fight Marquez at 147? Did he?

For your info, Pac offered to fight Marquez again, but he was refused and Marquez instead fought Chris John. We all know how that went.

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Pac fought Marg who weighed 165 lbs. MIDDLEWEIGHT.

By your definition, then not only is floyd a coward (actually twice a coward cuz he not only DEMANDED a catchweight, but CHEATED on an older, smaller guy) But also PWill, and a host of other ATGs such as sugar ray leonard who fought at catchweight.

Are you calling all of them cowards?

Did Pac actually say he'd fight Marquez at 147? Did he?

For your info, Pac offered to fight Marquez again, but he was refused and Marquez instead fought Chris John. We all know how that went.

You fkn idiot, it was a catchweight fight and Marg weighed 150.

You ******s that cannot comprehend the difference between a divisional limit and the weigh-in just prior to the fight, shouldn't even be here, let alone be arguing about boxing.

Give yourself an uppercut ****head.

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Manny Pacquiao is a liar and a coward.

Even Roach and Ariza admit that he is a junior-middleweight.....

http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...t-middleweight
http://www.strengthspeedagility.com/...aining-program
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ible-physique/
http://www.pacquiao-margarito.com/en...-inner-circle/
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=621958
http://ezinearticles.com/?Boxing-Rin...nce&id=2546429
http://www.pacquiaovsmargarito.net/w...ight-pacquiao/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ment-at-first/
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...o-inner-circle

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004

[AFighter4U]

You fkn idiot, it was a catchweight fight and Marg weighed 150.

You ******s that cannot comprehend the difference between a divisional limit and the weigh-in just prior to the fight, shouldn't even be here, let alone be arguing about boxing.

Give yourself an uppercut ****head.

Typical. Resort to insults when intelligence is lacking.

You really can't count can you? Nor can you comprehend much. They didn't fight at weigh-in. They fought 24 hours after that. Pac didn't fight the marg who weighed 150 lbs. He fought the marg who weighed 165 lbs. Which, according to boxing weight limits is MIDDLEWEIGHT. Is that simply too hard for you to comprehend? Do i have to use smaller words for you?

Can't accept the fact that you just called your hero Floyd a coward twice over?

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Typical. Resort to insults when intelligence is lacking.

I call it how I see it..... and, you are an idiot.

You really can't count can you? Nor can you comprehend much. They didn't fight at weigh-in. They fought 24 hours after that. Pac didn't fight the marg who weighed 150 lbs. He fought the marg who weighed 165 lbs. Which, according to boxing weight limits is MIDDLEWEIGHT. Is that simply too hard for you to comprehend? Do i have to use smaller words for you?

Hush, you silly kid. Let me explain two things.....

Firstly, you are an idiot for failing to understand the difference between a divisional limit, and the weigh-in just prior to the fight.

The divisional limit, or catch-weight in "padded" Pacquiao's case, determines how much muscle and conditioning that you will carry into the fight.

Fkn hell you idiot, do you really think that a weight difference after 24 hours could be made up of muscle? What a moron. Rehydration weight is almost solely dependant on your water intake, and can be detrimental. It is almost always harder coming down than going up.

Trying to tell me that Margarito is a middleweight was just silly.

Margarito is a large welterweight you clown. Before the Garcia fight, Margarito had only fought above 147 a couple of times during the last 10 years. That is why I called "padded" Pacquiao a coward, not because he is scared to fight Sergio. I never even mentioned Sergio

I called Manny a coward because he claims to be an 8-division champion, and yet he won a vacant title, by beating a slow, plodding, mediocre, welterweight bum who could not even currently compete with the top welterweights. Manny has NEVER fought a JMW opponent, and he has NEVER fought at the divisional limit. That title is an absolute joke.

BTW, I did not address your next two issues earlier because I dismissed you as an idiot and did not read your whole post after realising that you had no idea how the weigh-in determines your fighting condition.

SRL's title is meaningless, but of course he is not a coward, that was a ****** thing to say. He fought a genuine LHW, and a genuine title holder, and also because he is SRL. Whereas "padded" Pacquiao did neither of those things, and he has a string of offenses longer than your arm. He is a repeat offender, with a manufactured resume'.

And, you ***ed up here, but I will let you off the hook, because I am an honest boxing fan, unlike you or Manny. You said.....
" actually twice a coward cuz he not only DEMANDED a catchweight, but CHEATED on an older, smaller guy "

Ya dummy. Why the *** would the larger fighter ask for a catch-weight?

That was to make it seem fair to those who thought they had a clue.

Clearly Marquez was always going to be out-matched, and it was a total fkn b1tch move by Mayweather to buy his way out of that catch-weight. It was insurance, nothing more. Mayweather could most likely have made 144 and beaten Marquez easily, but it took away any chance of an advantage for Marquez, and saved Mayweather from having to make a lower weight than usual after coming off a layoff.

It was a b1tch move, plain and simple.

Can't accept the fact that you just called your hero Floyd a coward twice over?

Let's clear up the ***** thing.....
it was a b1tch-move marketing Marquez as a competitive opponent, let alone Mayweather sliding on the weight. That was actually a double-b1tch move.

But you cannot call that b1tch a coward for fighting a tune-up after a long lay-off. Because he actually went up a division and fought a genuine junior middleweight, and genuine champion - Manny did neither of those things - and also because he immediately fought the #1 WW Mosley, which is something that Manny was also too scared to do - TWICE.

But Mayweather is a b1tch for sliding on the weight, plain and simple.

I don't give a **** about Mayweather. He is on vacation, acting like a clown. I have never even mentioned him. This thread, and all of my posts, have been about Juan Manuel Marquez. This thread is about JMM, get over you hate for Mayweather, he is on vacation.

So, back to the ol' " coward " thing.....

You reminded me of two more reasons why Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a coward, so I will update the list with Mosley and Sergio, and then repost.

Thanks for your help.

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Manny Pacquiao is a coward for claiming to be an 8-division champion, and yet being too scared to EVER fight a JMW oppenent.

Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Mayweather back in December, either that or he is a steroid cheat. He didn't want none of Mayweather or the tests, thats for sure.

Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Sergio Martinez. If JMM can go up two divisions to WW, then surely Manny can defend his JMW title at 154. What a b1tch Manny.

Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for demanding a catch-weight for Cotto. There are two reasons to demand a catch-weight, either you are not good enough to compete with that fighter at his natural weight, or you are attempting to drain him to gain an unfair advantage. Both are cowardly.

Manny Pacquiao is also a coward for ducking Shane Mosley - TWICE !!

And Manny "padded" Pacquiao is also a dirty coward for refusing to fight Marquez unless the fight is held at 147.

Manny "padded" Pacquiao is a joke. Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

Team Pacquiao.....
Still piss-scared of Marquez, since 2004