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  • hitking
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    #141
    Originally posted by Twako
    no offense but tuneup my ass. floyd-jmm was billed Numero Uno. floyd said he wanted to fight the best that's why he took on what he thinks at that time was the 'real p4p#1.
    But ULTIMATELY, it turned into a $60 sparring session. Liek you say, ULTIMATELY, Pac will weigh in at 144 although he won't take the catchweight. Since you like to deal in hypotheticals, I just threw one out there.

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    • hitking
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      #142
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      We know what he said. But that was a ****ing tuneup. You had to be a real idiot to buy that crap. And if he fought another tuneup after that he would've (rightfully) been lambasted. If he tried to go for three in a row (like Manny is trying to do), he probably woulda been shot.
      Couldn't have said it better myself.

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      • boxingfan76
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        #143
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        1) I disagree with arum about the weight of the fight. pac can make 140 lbs easy. but arum does have a point... pac and jmm are only 3 lbs apart on fight night.

        2) i agree with arum about the money. jmm asking for 50/50 ain't gonna happen. he's gonna have to except the same money he got from wifebeater or less. if jmm really wants this fight, he'll have to take whatever scraps arum throws at hiim

        3) I still think jmm has to prove he can hang at 140+ lbs. he needs to atleast beat an elite jr WW or a top 10 WW.
        jmm has nothing to prove at 140 or 147 before facing pac. jmm is a liteweight period. he out connected mannny 2 bouts in a row, and if anyboyy deserves the money and the fight its jmm, win lose or draw.weights dont make fights styles do and jmm knows pacs style in and out, they can fight 100times it will always be a great fight.just because manny beats washed up welterweights doesnt mean jmm can too and none of that will change the fact that jmm knows how to fight manny ,weight classes are irrelevant when it comes to these two.

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        • Illdil
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          #144
          Originally posted by hitking
          As I recall, JMM called out Floyd Mayweather in his postfight interview after the Juan Diaz fight. So once again, I can't understand why Money was criticized for fighting him and people are excusing Pac.
          exactly u wana fight someone then go ahead and do it but dont complain about the advantages and the disadvantages...and the terms that r presented to u if u dont like it then go ahead and fight someone else and we moving on...JMM did wana fight jr but floyd could have fought a true WW but he knew JMM brings the $$$$ thats why it happened....but i dont blame jr its JMM that wants to fight then go ahead..but dont cry after the fight about what shouldv/wouldv/couldv it was your choice to fight for the weight/money and terms its your choice no one is forcing u..

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          • IMDAZED
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            #145
            Originally posted by DigitalBeast
            So it is not possible to perform as he does in his age? While my statement stands, this is a bad example, anyways. A guy nearly 50 kinda has the right to use something, to compete with 30 somethings. Not so in his next fight, mind you... Ideally, it would only be about determination and skill, not age.
            It's possible just like it's possible that you're juicing. And in boxing...come on. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../28/holyfield/

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            • Illdil
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              #146
              Originally posted by boxingfan76
              jmm has nothing to prove at 140 or 147 before facing pac. jmm is a liteweight period. he out connected mannny 2 bouts in a row, and if anyboyy deserves the money and the fight its jmm, win lose or draw.weights dont make fights styles do and jmm knows pacs style in and out, they can fight 100times it will always be a great fight.just because manny beats washed up welterweights doesnt mean jmm can too and none of that will change the fact that jmm knows how to fight manny ,weight classes are irrelevant when it comes to these two.
              JMM cant fight anything over 140 ..too much weight for him to carry for 12 rounds and he gona put on weight after the weigh in too ..u being a JMM fan dont change nothing weight does matter unless its a HW fight..

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              • hitking
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                #147
                Originally posted by Illdil
                exactly u wana fight someone then go ahead and do it but dont complain about the advantages and the disadvantages...and the terms that r presented to u if u dont like it then go ahead and fight someone else and we moving on...JMM did wana fight jr but floyd could have fought a true WW but he knew JMM brings the $$$$ thats why it happened....but i dont blame jr its JMM that wants to fight then go ahead..but dont cry after the fight about what shouldv/wouldv/couldv it was your choice to fight for the weight/money and terms its your choice no one is forcing u..
                I agree with you 100%. I also agree with everything Arum said 100%. I just have a problem with Arum saying considering the way Team Pacquaio has used catchweights to their advantage over the last couple years.

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                • BALLISTIC
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                  #148
                  this glass chin clown JMM should face an legit JW or WW than talk about pac..

                  i like to see JMM vs cotto at 147 b4 even thinking about pac...
                  JMM is a crying baby...i wish floyd was more like JMM..

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                  • DigitalBeast
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    It's possible just like it's possible that you're juicing. And in boxing...come on. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../28/holyfield/
                    So it is possible for all boxers to be juicing, according to you? And if it is(to you), why even mention it?..

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                    • lilducer22
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by borikua
                      Marquez just have to accept this terms and weigh-in at 140. Pac will probably weigh-in at 143-144. What's the problem?!?
                      problem is that marquez is too much of a warrior and true boxer that he will try 2 aim for the 147 weight as much as he can i think he should just weigh in 140 but he probably wont

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