SUPER 6: Ward, Froch Or Abraham.. Who Had The Easiest Route To The Semi-Final?

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  • deejd
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    #21
    Originally posted by DempseyRollin
    i like how ppl still act like ward fighting at home somehow changed the course of the fights. he dominated both green and kessler, no amount of ref interference would have changed that fact.

    anyways, ward still had the easier route, but it wasnt necessarily his fault. dirrell dropped out, if he hadnt, then ward would have probably had one of the tougher routes in all honesty.
    I agree with that. At this point in the tourney I felt the only person that would be able to beat Ward was Dirrell just because of his awkward style and ability to box. I don't think Ward would have been able to get off flurries and smother the way he's been doing.

    Sometimes hometown has an influence, but in Ward's case, he just fought the right fights, it's not like the the judges or ref slighted anyone for the sake of Ward winning. Dudes just had bad game plans.

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    • cleaner147
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      #22
      Ward and its not even close.

      he fought 2 easy replacment fighters (Green, Bika).

      he got a tough start with Kessler, but this and all 3 fights were in his ****in hometown so everything was crooked up and he could paly dirty all night long.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #23
        Originally posted by DempseyRollin
        i like how ppl still act like ward fighting at home somehow changed the course of the fights.
        of course it did!

        he dominated both green and kessler, no amount of ref interference would have changed that fact.
        maybe a different ref wouldn't have allowed ward to hold and hit so much.

        anyways, ward still had the easier route, but it wasnt necessarily his fault. dirrell dropped out, if he hadnt, then ward would have probably had one of the tougher routes in all honesty.
        dirrelll poses no threat to ward. dirrell can run, but he won't escape the clinches of ward. once ward gets a hold of him, he'll just headbutt or hit him in the clinch. easy fight imho given that dirrell lack fortitude.

        I want to like ward I really do, but fighting at home for all 3 of his first bouts in the super six just really turns me off.

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        • The_Demon
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          #24
          Id say Ward,but then again he was really stepping up in this tourney,and is the only guy too have won all of his fights,so props for that

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          • JDezi4
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            #25
            Ward, but only becuz he fought Green, and didn't have to fight Dirrell (In my mind, he earned the spot by beating Bika instead). Becuz he got to fight Green, he did. However, he certainly earned it by beating Bika and Kessler.

            Froch probably had the hardest by far. Dirrell, Kessler, than Abraham. Not that Abraham was hard, but the idea of fighting all those guys r just sounds like a tough day at the job each time.

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            • DarchinyFAN
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              #26
              Ward
              Kessler even at home was a task
              but
              Green may as well have not shown up
              Dirrell didn't show up (Bika wasn't past of the tourney)

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              • JDezi4
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                #27
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                of course it did!


                maybe a different ref wouldn't have allowed ward to hold and hit so much.


                dirrelll poses no threat to ward. dirrell can run, but he won't escape the clinches of ward. once ward gets a hold of him, he'll just headbutt or hit him in the clinch. easy fight imho given that dirrell lack fortitude.

                I want to like ward I really do, but fighting at home for all 3 of his first bouts in the super six just really turns me off.
                Ward doesn't hold and hit. He smothers and hits... (I think ur confused by that) So here's the difference. When u get in close, Ward grabs u, but within a second, he lets go (not holding) and unleashes a flurry. After the flurry he smothers u, staying chest to chest with u while he pushes and leans into u, which keeps u from being able to punch back. Than he may throw a couple more punches or whatever. That's why the referee never breaks him up right away. That's not holding. Sometimes he hooks ur arm, but u still have one free hand and so does he, so that's not holding and hitting either (it's certainly dirty, but its not holding and hitting).

                Holding is what Dirrell did in the Froch fight, when u wrap ur arms around the person leaving both of u immobile. Holding and hitting is what Arthur Abraham would do when he would push ur head down with his elbow and punch u to the body. Holding and hitting is when ur holding ur opponent in such a way that leaves him incapable of hitting u back while u throw at will.

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                • Horvo
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                  #28
                  Ward destroyed Kessler. Didn't lose a round. He was dominating way before any headbutts. They could have deducted 9 points and he still would have won.

                  Who had the easier rout? Who cares about that? Why not who is going to win the tournament? Or who has done better so far?

                  Two dominant wins for Ward. One dominant win and two close decisions for Froch. And as for Abraham, no one even wants to see him fight again.

                  Funny how people don't make as big of a deal about Bute fighting his last 20 fights in Montreal

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                  • FloydTBE
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                    #29
                    andre ward no doubts

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                    • z0jo
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                      #30
                      ward and johnson pretty much got free passes to the semis

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