Comments Thread For: Arum: Berto is The Toughest Sell For Manny Pacquiao

[guru]

Let me clarify that. Dela Hoya was old. And I guess the rest were great fighters. I'll give you the Cotto fight but you've seen previous Cotto fights, he good one day and trash the other. The rest were garbage.

And look at the Vegas odds in all those fights. Everyone knew Pac was going to win those fights. With the exception of the the Oscar fight people who knew a little something about boxing knew that Pac opponents were garbage. The proof is in the odds.

If Pac would have been an underdog in all those fights then you have a valid point.

As for Floyd beating Marquez, I wasn't impressed becaused that was what he was supposed to do. And when he beats Pac I still won't be impressed because that's what he is supposed to do.

pac was a big underdog to oscar. before the fight people thought it was a mismatch.... in oscars favor. pac jumped 2 wieght classes to fight him. i didnt hear anyone saying oscar was old PRIOR to the fight. saying it now is being a monday morning quarterback.

[hitking]

Why is Berto even being mentioned as a possible opponent for the so-called P4P King and G.O.A.T Manny Pacquaio when he's fought one top 10 welterweight in his life, and most people felt he lost?

[trainhard_187]

You are a terrible poster.



Blaming Floyd for more of Manny's poor selection of opponents?

If that makes you sleep at night, so be it.

Mayweathers ducking or what you call on vacation right? You just said it on my other thread..
Incase you forgot

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443797&page=2

So since he is who else is their for Arum to choose..

[hitking]

pac was a big underdog to oscar. before the fight people thought it was a mismatch.... in oscars favor. pac jumped 2 wieght classes to fight him. i didnt hear anyone saying oscar was old PRIOR to the fight. saying it now is being a monday morning quarterback.

Anyone with an OZ of boxing IQ and an HBO subscription knew that de la Hoya was shot after the "2 Pound" Forbes fight. I picked Pac to KO him, and took a lot of grief and won a lot of money because of it. I had no problem with Pac fighting de la Hoya. That said, de la Hoya falls right in line with a long list of Pacquaio wins against guys coming off either loses, rebuilding from loses, or lackluster performances against lesser fighters.

[hitking]

Mayweathers ducking or what you call on vacation right? You just said it on my other thread..
Incase you forgot

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443797&page=2

So since he is who else is their for Arum to choose..

Sergio Martinez has said he'll come down and challenge Pac for his WBC 154 belt. Why not fight him? I mean, Pac is the "P4P King." Shouldn't P4P Kings fight P4P elites?

[trainhard_187]

Sergio Martinez has said he'll come down and challenge Pac for his WBC 154 belt. Why not fight him? I mean, Pac is the "P4P King." Shouldn't P4P Kings fight P4P elites?

Should P4Ps keep fighting rather then take layoffs or vacations..

Im all for Pac fighting Sergio. Who said I wasnt? But NEWSFLASH, us fans dont get to pick the opponents..

[hitking]

Should P4Ps keep fighting rather then take layoffs or vacations..

Im all for Pac fighting Sergio. Who said I wasnt? But NEWSFLASH, us fans dont get to pick the opponents..

I too get annoyed with Mayweather's inactivity. But, when he does fight, its always against a P4P elite. Its funny, Mayweather is supposedly ducking Pac. But, every time they can't get together, Mayweatehr fights the next best guy P4P. He fought JMM, then #2 P4P. He fought Mosley, then #3 P4P. On the other hand, Pac ends up fighting guys coming off loses. That makes me question who's really WANTING to fight the best and who's not.

[Al_Jones718]

arum is saying berto is unknown because he knows he is the most dangerous of the 3 for manny.. mosley doesnt deserve a shot, after his last few performances.

[victorythagr8]

Sergio Martinez has said he'll come down and challenge Pac for his WBC 154 belt. Why not fight him? I mean, Pac is the "P4P King." Shouldn't P4P Kings fight P4P elites?

According to your dumbass logic wont Martinez fight any of the klitchko since both are p4p elites. its a known ****ing fact that pacquaio has came from 106 to 147 and came to a middleweight fight at 148. Actually why the **** Martinez is even calling out Pacquaio outside of trying to get a paycheck. Is he too ***** to fight Bute, Ward.



Pacquaio is p4p king because his work from 106-147. Pacquaio is nowhere near a 154 champion at all and if you forgot that pacquaio is planning to vacate the 154 belt and said that he is going back to 147.

Again if pacquaio should fight martinez, then i guess martinez should fight Froch(Who has a far better resume than martinez), Bute, or Ward. Really Martinez only two good wins are Pavlik and Paul williams. Pacquaio has Morrales, Barrera, Marquez, Hatton(if you going to count pavlik then i can count hatton) Cotto under his resume. Wont martinez fight at 168. Since he calling pacquaio a punk for not fighting at 154 knowing that pacquaio couldnt even make the it to 150 when martinez is too ***** to call out any of the 168 fighters.

Also my list of fights i want too see is

Floyd@147
Marquez@140(144 catchweight would be ok since that is usually marquez fight night weight the last few fights)
Bradley@140(if he wins against alexander)
Berto@147(he is an HBO hypejob who hasnt fought anybody and i want to see his chinny ass get knocked the **** out in 1 round)

I dont want to see pacquaio vs martinez because that is a mismatch. Martinez is bigger than margarito(dont bring that same size bull**** because if he is the same size as margarito he could easily make 150) And the funny thing martinez said he is not fighting pacquaio because 147 is pacquaio limit and then until the figures came up that now he turn around into money mode.

[victorythagr8]

I too get annoyed with Mayweather's inactivity. But, when he does fight, its always against a P4P elite. Its funny, Mayweather is supposedly ducking Pac. But, every time they can't get together, Mayweatehr fights the next best guy P4P. He fought JMM, then #2 P4P. He fought Mosley, then #3 P4P. On the other hand, Pac ends up fighting guys coming off loses. That makes me question who's really WANTING to fight the best and who's not.

Pac fought JMM when he was p4p number 2.

Pacquaio also fought Cotto when he was p4p number 4. he also fought hatton when hatton was p4p 10.

Try again.