Marquez will NOT beat the Pac-Man of today...

[Beater_of_ass]

you're the one going all nuts trying to argue **** i don't even want to argue about.


why do i think manny should man up?

because he's the better fighter , he has the advantages plus , and more importantly , the more he gives up to jmm the better the fight will be.


no one is insulting pac , nitwit.

i think 135 is a better fight and better for his legacy.


****ing emo.

What you fail to understand is that Manny did this already and JMM said NO. So JMM should shut his pie hole and be happy if Manny is willing to beat his ass to oblivion this time.

[Left Hook Tua]

so who do you want pac to fight if floyd doesnt happen?

me?

bradley/alexander winner at 140.

get all those belts. just to add to his resume.


or even berto. jmm 3 is fine. i wouldn't even care if it's mosley tbh.


i'm a bad person to ask. i buy all his fights. i don't whine about it like others do. if pac is fighting , i'm watching.

[Left Hook Tua]

What you fail to understand is that Manny did this already and JMM said NO. So JMM should shut his pie hole and be happy if Manny is willing to beat his ass to oblivion this time.

earth to idiot.

i know that.

why are you trying to argue things , i'm not even arguing?

you have reading comprehension problems.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

me?

bradley/alexander winner at 140.

get all those belts. just to add to his resume.


or even berto. jmm 3 is fine. i wouldn't even care if it's mosley tbh.


i'm a bad person to ask. i buy all his fights. i don't whine about it like others do. if pac is fighting , i'm watching.

For me,

1. Berto @ 147

2. Winner of Bradley alexander at 140

3. sergio at 160

Pac aint fighting marquez at 135 & probably will never fight anybody below 147. He's too successful to be told what to do & his leeches too afraid to tell him to do the right thing. Im dead set against mosley too old & washed up & marquez (too sadistic).

[Left Hook Tua]

For me,

1. Berto @ 147

2. Winner of Bradley alexander at 140

3. sergio at 160

Pac aint fighting marquez at 135 & probably will never fight anybody below 147. He's too successful to be told what to do & his leeches too afraid to tell him to do the right thing. Im dead set against mosley too old & washed up & marquez (too sadistic).

serg is too damn big. if he's gonna fight serg let it be his retirement. win or lose , go out in a blaze of glory.

imagine a former flyweight champ retiring after fighting the middleweight champion of the world for a title in a 9th division. win or lose that's atg stuff.


i know pac won't fight at 135. lame roach don't even want 140.

i just think 135 would be the best fight. even it up a little bit. even at 140 jmm is screwed. plus i like the idea of a 5th lineal title. pac's the only one to have 4 (112 , 126 , 130 , 140) a 5th would be awesome.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

serg is too damn big. if he's gonna fight serg let it be his retirement. win or lose , go out in a blaze of glory.

imagine a former flyweight champ retiring after fighting the middleweight champion of the world for a title in a 9th division. win or lose that's atg stuff.


i know pac won't fight at 135. lame roach don't even want 140.

i just think 135 would be the best fight. even it up a little bit. even at 140 jmm is screwed. plus i like the idea of a 5th lineal title. pac's the only one to have 4 (112 , 126 , 130 , 140) a 5th would be awesome.

i think he could easily make 135 but he's too conceited & selfish to do that now. he's earned it though.

If i had total control of pac's career now that you mentioned the 135 lineal:

1. vs marquez @ 135. stadium de azteca. 5th lineal. settle the trilogy. break chavez vs haugen attendance record.

2. vs bradley alexander winner @ 140.

3. vs berto @ 147.

4. retirement fight. vs sergio at 160. that's 6th lineal title. i think people make too much of the size difference. old school fighters used get outweighed by 20-30 lbs all the time. if slow ass kelly pavlik could hit sergio, wtf is pac gonna do? sergio is shorter than margarito but has a longer reach. Very doable in my opinion.

[strykr619]

If Katsidis can knock JMM down then I can see Pac keeping him down. JMM isn't the same fighter anymore either. He looked a lot easier to hit tonight against katsidis.

What I find funny is its JMM who keeps chasing after Pac but Pac has to come down in weight? LOL if you want to fight someone that bad then go up to their weight class. Say what ever you people want but Pacquaio is a Welterweight fighter now. He has NO OBLIGATION to make it easier for JMM.

I would make it simple, If JMM wants 50/50 payday, then fight Manny at welter, if he wants it at 140 or 142 then take a lesser purse.

I call that fair.

This still doesn't change the fact that the ONLY fight I really want to see is against Mayweather.

[ShoguNinja]

The Pacquiao NOW will Destroy Marquez if they ever fight in the future. Maybe Marquez just wants to retire and move to the recreational sector with a big cash on the pocket thats why he keeps chasing Pacquiao? :Lol Pacquiao is on the different level now than Marquez in terms of skill and physical attributes. Those who say otherwise are the Pacquiao hater's who can't live to the fact that the no. 1 Pound for Pound Boxer is not even American or someone in the latin American region.

[gopi11]

seasoned - pac had 50 fights under his belt at the time of the rematch

confident - pac has been confident since forever. you don't take on marco antonio barrera in texas or take a championship fight on 2 weeks notice against ledwaba without confidence.

much better right hand - they started working on the right hand since 4 years earlier after the 1st fight. he showcased it against velazquez and marquez 3 years earlier.

You know what you missed tua? Pacman doesn't drain himself anymore like he use to when he was still fighting at 130. Weigh-in day, he's around 128 1/2 to 129 3/4, fight night, he's 144 or more, a 15 pound gain overnight, just like what Margo did. Marquez survived those heavy blows before, he even hurt Pacquiao more than a couple of times, but not this time. Pac will eat Marquez' counters for breakfast and he will put Marquez down for good this time...

[Left Hook Tua]

You know what you missed tua? Pacman doesn't drain himself anymore like he use to when he was still fighting at 130. Weigh-in day, he's around 128 1/2 to 129 3/4, fight night, he's 144 or more, a 15 pound gain overnight, just like what Margo did. Marquez survived those heavy blows before, he even hurt Pacquiao more than a couple of times, but not this time. Pac will eat Marquez' counters for breakfast and he will put Marquez down for good this time...

nah i didn't miss it. just didn't bring it up.

not having to cut weight helps. that's why i want it 135. give jmm as much help as possible.

make it sporting.


i know pac has improved , i just don't want to take away too much from jmm giving pac those tough fights.

he got a good win last night. i'll be nice to him today.

i got 364 days in the year to **** on him. i'll give him 1 day.