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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #21
    Originally posted by venom715
    I would still like to see JMM vs Pacman. The fighters can come in anywhere up to 147 lbs maximum so I don't understand what the fuss is about. I think both will come in around 143 lbs so its not an unfair advantage/disadvantage to anyone. After watching JMM go down tonite, Pac puts JMM down a few more times if they do it again and maybe send him into retirement.
    135 for marquez's lineal title.

    also makes it more fair to jmm.

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    • Jamel H
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      #22
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      135 for marquez's lineal title.

      also makes it more fair to jmm.
      I think 140 would be fair also, I don't think Pac could make 135 but then again I could be wrong since he weighs in at 144 nowadays

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        #23
        Originally posted by Cashtro
        I think 140 would be fair also, I don't think Pac could make 135 but then again I could be wrong since he weighs in at 144 nowadays
        140 i think is fair.

        135 is better though.

        gives pac a chance for a 5th lineal title. gives marquez a better chance.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          140 i think is fair.

          135 is better though.

          gives pac a chance for a 5th lineal title. gives marquez a better chance.
          yea good point but either way 147 shouldn't be in the question. Marquez isn't a welterweight fighter at all

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            #25
            pac is definitely a totally diffrent fighter than what marquez faced.

            more seasoned, confident, & armed with a much better right hand. pac's right hand is now dropping much bigger fighters than marquez in hatton,cotto, & almost margarito 10th round.

            anything above 135 is a suicide mission that would make a al queda operative blush.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Cashtro
              yea good point but either way 147 shouldn't be in the question. Marquez isn't a welterweight fighter at all
              it's roach.

              he does pacquiao a disservice sometimes with his mouth.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                135 for marquez's lineal title.

                also makes it more fair to jmm.
                I dont think Manny is interested in JMM's 135 lb title so why should he go down to 135? I seriously doubt he can make 135 anyway. If JMM wants the fight he has to go up but its not like Pac will be much bigger than him.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Willie Swindler
                  pac is definitely a totally diffrent fighter than what marquez faced.

                  more seasoned, confident, & armed with a much better right hand. pac's right hand is now dropping much bigger fighters than marquez in hatton,cotto, & almost margarito 10th round.

                  anything above 135 is a suicide mission that would make a al queda operative blush.
                  seasoned - pac had 50 fights under his belt at the time of the rematch

                  confident - pac has been confident since forever. you don't take on marco antonio barrera in texas or take a championship fight on 2 weeks notice against ledwaba without confidence.

                  much better right hand - they started working on the right hand since 4 years earlier after the 1st fight. he showcased it against velazquez and marquez 3 years earlier.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by venom715
                    I dont think Manny is interested in JMM's 135 lb title so why should he go down to 135? I seriously doubt he can make 135 anyway. If JMM wants the fight he has to go up but its not like Pac will be much bigger than him.
                    i didn't say he has to.

                    that's what i want.


                    no interest in a 135 lineal/ring title huh?

                    what diamond belt or vacant belt should he go for next then?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      it's roach.

                      he does pacquiao a disservice sometimes with his mouth.
                      It could be me but I think Roach is the one whos more afraid of Manny losing then anyone. He's ALWAYS calling out for weight catches and we all know that Marquez can barely get over 143 just make an fair even fight and prove that Manny doesn't need these pointless advantages

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