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  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    Pacquiao has learned some new tricks but still haven't used these
    new tools in the ring with technical fighters. There is a possibilty
    that Manny new abilities won't make him too dominate against
    Marquez, being that Marquez is a technical fighter and could adjust
    to Manny still.
    I would not try to defend Pacquiao at all cost. But logically just think of these:

    • Pacquiao was strictly a JAB-JAB-STRAIGHT LEFT and yet he:

    1. knocked-down Marquez 3 times and drew the fight with Marquez in the first fight. There was a controversy when one of the judges didn't know what he did in not giving Pacquiao an extra score on that score. EDGE: PACQUIAO

    2. Knocked-down Marquez 1 time on their second fight. And traded a toss-up fight the rest of the way. Another controversy, the main KD was also a big influence on the final tally. SPLIT DECISION: Pacquiao


    NOW with the "new" PACQUIAO, I would think that he would not only win it but annihilate Marquez because he now has more arsenals and footworks in him. He is also stronger and have more stamina.

    Not taking away from Marquez known as a technical and one of the best counter-punchers of our time now but I don't think he has enough to contend the "new" Pacquiao.

    Sure Marquez can adjust, there's no question. The next logical question now is:

    • Can he adjust to Pacquiao's new power and full-throttle combinations from all angles unseen from his 2 previous fights with him?

    • Can Pacquiao adjust to Marquez's power after taking shots from Margarito, Cotto...etc.?

    I really think that Pacquiao now are MILES AHEAD. Pacquiao has improved but Marquez hasn't.

    Take note: KATSIDIS threw a wicked LEFT HOOK that floored Marquez. Don't you think that Pacquiao can do MORE than that and follow it up with combinations WITH POWER?

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    • lol at the shirt. that was not so impressive for the judges of the 2 fights...

      jmm needs to beat hoya, hatton, clottey, marga, berto and shane first before he can have pac with 50-50 and OST..

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      • when still a budding one-dimensional fighter, pacquiao has twice beaten marquez who was in his prime…can you imagine what would happen to marquez now that pacquiao is transformed into a complete indestructible fighting machine???

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        • I pity marquez...he must be out of his mind...his style of begging for a big payday with pacquiao is somewhat of a delusional kind...he can say what he wants but the world knows he lost twice against pacquiao.

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          • Humberto Soto could easily DESTROY/ KO Marquez, Pacquiao, Barrera, Morales, all in the same year, one right after the other. This is why they're all scared to fight Soto, cause Soto is vicious in the ring, and has scared Pacman, Marquez, Barrera, Morales, Robert Guerrero, Jorge Linares, and so many others into not fighting him. Soto is the Most Avoided Fighter in Boxing. thats why he has to fight bums for now, cause the big names duck him.

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            • Marquez and Schaefer know they don't have a shot. Pacquiao and Arum would never hand over the lead promotion of a Pacquiao fight to Golden Boy Promotions by fighting a GBP fighter. Arum also gives Pacquiao more money and audience fighting in-house, and Pacquiao ---if Marquez and GBP has not realized that yet---does not reward taunts and insults with a big payday.

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              • Originally posted by OpaiSoma View Post
                We can only speculate as to what their reason?

                Are you implying that they are ducking? If your the bigger why would you sucombed to the other fighter's demand- thats simply illogical. Unless your a dumb fawk like yourself.

                Speculation is all you got.

                What If pac cant make 140 anymore? are you going to tell me he is going to lose that much weight to satisfy the other fighter eventhough he is the bigger draw and have the leverage- fawk no, thats in general and not just pac. But then again I guess you would

                What if they want to campaign at 147 to get use to the weight to be ready with the fight with floyd and doesnt want to jump around different division to be consistent. Are you saying Pac is should go down just for JMM? but then again your a dumb fawk i guess you would.

                What if it was all the way around? Hmm...
                Oooh ok. Are these the new excuses Pac supporters are using
                now to cosign his match making actions? I clearly remember
                Floyd fighting JMM at a catchweight of 144, then coming in over
                weight and people said Floyd cheated JMM. Manny is about
                the same size as JMM but don't want to fight at a 144 catchweight?
                Pac fans have all kinds of excuses. Freddie and Pac are making
                all these fighters have to defend/win legit titles at catchweights?
                You seem to be the dumb one because you bought into the Manny
                hype hook, line and sinker. You keep telling me I'm dumb for being
                aware and accepting the truth, while you lie to yourself and look
                ****** continuously as Manny keeps exposing himself. Name calling
                won't change that.

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                • "Freddie Roach says Manny will not be fighting at any catchweights and the fight will have to take place at 147."

                  ....unless its to Manny's advantage.

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                  • Originally posted by fabie View Post
                    I would not try to defend Pacquiao at all cost. But logically just think of these:

                    • Pacquiao was strictly a JAB-JAB-STRAIGHT LEFT and yet he:

                    1. knocked-down Marquez 3 times and drew the fight with Marquez in the first fight. There was a controversy when one of the judges didn't know what he did in not giving Pacquiao an extra score on that score. EDGE: PACQUIAO

                    2. Knocked-down Marquez 1 time on their second fight. And traded a toss-up fight the rest of the way. Another controversy, the main KD was also a big influence on the final tally. SPLIT DECISION: Pacquiao


                    NOW with the "new" PACQUIAO, I would think that he would not only win it but annihilate Marquez because he now has more arsenals and footworks in him. He is also stronger and have more stamina.

                    Not taking away from Marquez known as a technical and one of the best counter-punchers of our time now but I don't think he has enough to contend the "new" Pacquiao.

                    Sure Marquez can adjust, there's no question. The next logical question now is:

                    • Can he adjust to Pacquiao's new power and full-throttle combinations from all angles unseen from his 2 previous fights with him?

                    • Can Pacquiao adjust to Marquez's power after taking shots from Margarito, Cotto...etc.?

                    I really think that Pacquiao now are MILES AHEAD. Pacquiao has improved but Marquez hasn't.

                    Take note: KATSIDIS threw a wicked LEFT HOOK that floored Marquez. Don't you think that Pacquiao can do MORE than that and follow it up with combinations WITH POWER?
                    Just like Pacquiao has improved, Marquez could too in a match
                    against Pacquiao. Marquez unlike all of Pac's past opponents
                    is winning and still fights his heart out.

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                    • I mean, what the difference how good Pac has gotten?
                      Especially since he is fighting guys like Cotto and Margarito
                      at catchweights when clearly Manny is the fastest of them?
                      Pacquiao could have fought Marquez again instead of Diaz,
                      Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito. Pretty sure
                      a Marquez fight would have been more competitive then
                      all of those. I think Pac is a good and exciting fighter
                      but with all of this supposed to be new skill Manny has,
                      he still didn't test himself to see how good he really got.
                      I learned that bigger, pressure fighters can't deal with
                      Manny's speed. Pac made his point, so now it's time
                      for him to put them skills to the test. I would be down
                      to see Marquez in the ring with Pac before Mosley.

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