Comments Thread For: Marquez Taunts Pacquiao With Shirt, Schaefer Jabs Arum

[fabie]

you gotta be blind to not see that pac isn't a just a one-handed boxer anymore

Thank you. I don't know why people would decline or even not acknowledge that. Acknowledging these "new" traits of Pacquiao doesn't make Marquez any less but they try to minimize Pacquiao via argumentations.

I give props and have given props to Marquez. He is the ultimate ROCK-EM-SOCK-EM-MEXICAN-STYLE fighter. I used to see Pacquiao in this light also but Pacquiao has matured.

Pacquiao can be seen utilizing:

• DISTANCE and LEVERAGE
• ENTRY MOVES (either RIGHT HOOK, or STRAIGHT LEFTS)
• LATERAL MOVEMENTS
• IN AND OUT

He has graduated from his usual JAB-JAB_STRAIGHT LEFT that is at utmost predictable. (and yet have given the stiffest challenges towards Barrera, Morales and Marquez).

How much more now with all of these weapons with more power and able to absorb big punches?

[iNDOLiFER]

marquez wants to eat too! lol

[fabie]

Experience is one thing, it still doesn't mean you know anything...just means you know experience. Styles makes fight but bull**** is bull****. You don't get the socalled P4P king or most exciting guy in boxing ready to fight the best defensivie guy in the world by fight punching bags. I love what Pac has done but its obvious he was fed those guys to build his hype. He has problems with boxers period!!! Arum is setting him & his fans up for a downfall.

If it makes you happy, then so be it.

You're still not discussing nor acknowlege-ing the "new" Pacquiao with the attributes I have listed.

You have your own opinion, I have my own...I deeply respect yours. But doesn't make you a BS to me, it is just your own.

[Ankh599]

I respect yours...the BS was the opponents we are judging Pac by. I give him credit for coming up in weight destroying these guys yes, but he has had problems with boxers and Arum keeps feeding him the same guys. AND its easy to deploy more punches against guys that can't counter you. When he faces his weakness which has been boxers in the past then I can say his "new" abilities are true.

Now keep it real would you keep feeding him punching bags or boxers if he plans on fighting the best defensive guy?

If it makes you happy, then so be it.

You're still not discussing nor acknowlege-ing the "new" Pacquiao with the attributes I have listed.

You have your own opinion, I have my own...I deeply respect yours. But doesn't make you a BS to me, it is just your own.

[GRUSTLER]

I can't cosign that Pac would put Marquez out because
Pac had two times to do it years apart after 4 knock downs
combined and still got the gift win(s). Marquez may just
have Pacquiao's number. Not seeing Pac being quick to
take the challenge. Pac is weighing 144 in a JMW fight
but don't want to go down to 144 against JMM? That
would be Pac's full weight. Why would JMM have to
make the WW limit? Hell, Pac can still make it to 140.
Manny Pacquiao is being exposed more and more everyday.

[treason1]

piss must have damaged marquez brain cells if he thinks he can handle the young tiger manny !!!!! manny has improved so much since his last fight with the piss drinker that it would be attemted murder if manny fighted him !!!!! if manny was able to beat the cheat out of margarita just imajine what he willl do to someone who is under the influence of piss

[GRUSTLER]

Thank you. I don't know why people would decline or even not acknowledge that. Acknowledging these "new" traits of Pacquiao doesn't make Marquez any less but they try to minimize Pacquiao via argumentations.

I give props and have given props to Marquez. He is the ultimate ROCK-EM-SOCK-EM-MEXICAN-STYLE fighter. I used to see Pacquiao in this light also but Pacquiao has matured.

Pacquiao can be seen utilizing:

• DISTANCE and LEVERAGE
• ENTRY MOVES (either RIGHT HOOK, or STRAIGHT LEFTS)
• LATERAL MOVEMENTS
• IN AND OUT

He has graduated from his usual JAB-JAB_STRAIGHT LEFT that is at utmost predictable. (and yet have given the stiffest challenges towards Barrera, Morales and Marquez).

How much more now with all of these weapons with more power and able to absorb big punches?

Pacquiao has learned some new tricks but still haven't used these
new tools in the ring with technical fighters. There is a possibilty
that Manny new abilities won't make him too dominate against
Marquez, being that Marquez is a technical fighter and could adjust
to Manny still.

[bkflame]

threader

team pac make me laugh...they call pbf a coward for avoidin manny but they refuse to make any concessions for a trilogy with jmm. why not 144, freddie??? I think manny wins at this stage of their careers but i'd still love to see it...would be a cracker!!

[fabie]

I respect yours...the BS was the opponents we are judging Pac by. I give him credit for coming up in weight destroying these guys yes, but he has had problems with boxers and Arum keeps feeding him the same guys. AND its easy to deploy more punches against guys that can't counter you. When he faces his weakness which has been boxers in the past then I can say his "new" abilities are true.

Now keep it real would you keep feeding him punching bags or boxers if he plans on fighting the best defensive guy?

I think I do understand your position.

Pacquiao in his recent fights have been mixed-intentions of making money AND unprecedented legacy. Who would blame him for the ludicrous amounts of money he's been getting?

I am not defending everything he does and when it pertains to Marquez, sure he gave him his stiffest challenges in his career. But I also thought that he has gone miles and miles ahead of his old ways of fighting.

I used to "curse" at him while watching him fight Morales (1st fight) and whenever he fights Marquez with his uber-predictable JAB-JAB-STRAIGHT LEFTS. Over and over.

But if anything I have never seen so much transformation and progress in a boxer. I've been watching a lot of boxing likewise and saw THRILLA IN MANILA at an early age of 8ish/9ish that left an indelible mark on my psyche that led me to love the sport of pugilism.

I actually "hated" Pacquiao's style and would opt for the sweet-science of boxing a la' ALI. And now seeing that in Mayweather in how he defend, his pull-counters and his shoulder-rolls. His distancing, his pivoting and uncanny timing.

But I cannot deny Pacquiao's awesome progress and into a wrecking machine that reminds me of Aaron Pryor as he dismantles one of my favorites in Arguello.

And so for the Marquez and Pacquiao III, I really think that Pacquiao would annihilate him. Simply.

[OpaiSoma]

I can't cosign that Pac would put Marquez out because
Pac had two times to do it years apart after 4 knock downs
combined and still got the gift win(s). Marquez may just
have Pacquiao's number. Not seeing Pac being quick to
take the challenge. Pac is weighing 144 in a JMW fight
but don't want to go down to 144 against JMM? That
would be Pac's full weight. Why would JMM have to
make the WW limit? Hell, Pac can still make it to 140.
Manny Pacquiao is being exposed more and more everyday.

We can only speculate as to what their reason?

Are you implying that they are ducking? If your the bigger draw why would you sucombed to the other fighter's demand- thats simply illogical. Unless your a dumb fawk like yourself.

Speculation is all you got.

What If pac cant make 140 anymore? are you going to tell me he is going to lose that much weight to satisfy the other fighter eventhough he is the bigger draw and have the leverage- fawk no, thats in general and not just pac. But then again I guess you would

What if they want to campaign at 147 to get use to the weight to be ready with the fight with floyd and doesnt want to jump around different division to be consistent. Are you saying Pac is should go down just for JMM? but then again your a dumb fawk i guess you would.

What if it was all the way around? Hmm...