Carl Froch is like a squared circle, completely illogical

[-Kev-]

He lost to Dirrell and Kessler.

Jermain Taylor is a recognizable name, not a good win at 168.

Pascal victory was good, especially after Pascal beat Dawson. He's also beaten Abraham.

Far from elite, but in this day and age, it doesn't seem like you have to do much to gain the status of elite.

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[The Gambler1981]

I don't know if Glen is the man to get the job done against Froch. It should be an interesting fight but I don't think Johnson really presents a real stylistic problem or has any real physical advantages.

I guess that fight could go either way.

I am pretty confident Ward would beat him though.

[serv]

This is the best Froach I have seen so far. He came in with confidence in his eyes. His defense is great and the timing is good most of the time.

Props to Carl. Good job man.

[VatoMulatto]

Carl Froch looks very beatable but once you step into the ring with him, it's another story. His awkward style of boxing works well for him. Even though he's underrated as a boxer he's still not the biggest talent out there. His biggest weapon is his confidence. He's mentally very strong, he never doubts himself and that helps him beat boxers who "should" beat him on paper.

[Heru]

Glad another agrees, since there are still people claiming he got sonned and had no case.


I think his jab has gotten better even since the Kessler fight, too.

People get swayed by the crowd and the announcers, I've learned my lesson.

His jab landed frequently in the fight, but every time Kessler landed a glancing blow or flurried, the crowd would erupt and it was then "a Kessler round". Complete bull****, but when you're in the moment, you can fall for it.

Froch definitely has a case for winning the Kessler fight. He neutralized Kessler's offense (reduced him to only being able to land straight rights to the body) and landed his jab as lead and counters over and over.

[check hook]

It completely boggles the mind that this guy is consistently winning fights on a high level. like everyone says he must have deceivingly good skills because he still looks like hot garbage in the ring, although this was his best performance to date.

Look at his resume:

Jean Pascal
Jermain Taylor
Andre Dirrell
Mikkel Kessler
Arthur Abraham

Albeit he arguably lost to Dirrell and his accuracy against kessler was god awful, still, this is one of the more impressive runs out of any active fighter and for that, he deserves a ton of credit.

Next up is Glen Johnson, which again, in my mind he should lose, but at this point, nothing would surprise me.

He will lose to Glen and Ward. Sig this if you want to refer to it later. Froch is good when he get's to fight outside at range. That is where he likes to be......he can't do that with Johnson who will get inside. Froch (like Allan Green) does not know how to fight inside.

[Kevin Malone]

People get swayed by the crowd and the announcers, I've learned my lesson.

His jab landed frequently in the fight, but every time Kessler landed a glancing blow or flurried, the crowd would erupt and it was then "a Kessler round". Complete bull****, but when you're in the moment, you can fall for it.

Froch definitely has a case for winning the Kessler fight. He neutralized Kessler's offense (reduced him to only being able to land straight rights to the body) and landed his jab as lead and counters over and over.

I can't remember what I scored the Kessler fight but I know I had Froch winning (115-113 maybe?) but yeah Kessler didn't seem to be landing the bigger blows to me. It seemed Froch was the one doing the real damage.

[check hook]

Carl Froch looks very beatable but once you step into the ring with him, it's another story. His awkward style of boxing works well for him. Even though he's underrated as a boxer he's still not the biggest talent out there. His biggest weapon is his confidence. He's mentally very strong, he never doubts himself and that helps him beat boxers who "should" beat him on paper.

He has excellent conditioning and strength, but can't fight inside. AA, Pascal, Taylor and Kessler don't fight inside either. They fought him at range.....where he likes to fight and is comfortable. Direll i thought beat him at range and so will Ward. Though Ward is smart and won't bother.....he will mug Froch inside where Froch does not know how to fight.

Same for G Johnson. He is going to step inside right in Frochs face where Froch does not know how to fight.

Froch is still limited. I though he lost closely to Kessler (also limited) and Andre Direll. He beat AA because Arthur did the silliest thing possibl;e and shelled up and let Froch fight at range.

He will lose to Johnson and Ward.

[check hook]

I don't know if Glen is the man to get the job done against Froch. It should be an interesting fight but I don't think Johnson really presents a real stylistic problem or has any real physical advantages.

I guess that fight could go either way.

I am pretty confident Ward would beat him though.

apologies....but you're dead wrong about that.

[Clegg]

Froch has shown some flaws in the past and I think it makes people overlook his good qualities. They see him throwing that big uppercut from the other side of the ring or taking silly shots and think 'that's ridiculous, how is someone who fights like that going to win at the highest level?'. But of course you can't judge someone based upon just one moment or just one aspect of their game.

I think that a lot of the criticisms of him miss the big picture. For example everyone was united in criticising his defense and overall boxing skill after the Taylor fight, but really, he fought that fight the right way and if he hadn't forced the pace he probably would've lost a UD.

Of course it wouldn't been better if he would've forced the pace without getting hit as much, but boxing is about making the best of what you've got and he's done that very well. It was only the Dirrell fight where I thought he got the tactics wrong.

He's got the kind of confidence that produces not only ATG quotes but also results in him genuinely believing himself to be the best. I couldn't imagine Froch doing **** all for 12 rounds like AA did tonight, or bottling it like Green did against Ward. Allan Green with the mentality of Carl Froch might actually be a damn good fighter, but with the mentality of Allan Green he's nowhere near it.

I think Froch is very similar to Glen Johnson in that if you have a weakness, he'll expose it. He won't beat everyone but he'll always want to fight the best and can never be taken lightly.