if sergio wants pac, 150 is where its at...

[IronDanHamza]

You might as well leave this 1 alone bro. When people start saying that a man that got caught cheating, ko'd, suspended, beat a beer vendor, couldn't get a liscense in half the country is better than an undefeated Eurpean champ, (in a weight class) that Eurpeans are already close to dominating, there's no need to keep trying to apply common sense to the discussion.

And what the **** does that have to do with anything?

Are you saying because he was the European Champion this has some kind of correlation with European fighters dominating divisions???



Wow.

You critisize Pac for fighting Margarito coming off fighting a 'Beer vendor' yet Barker who's career literally consists of Garcia level opposition is a legit win?

You moan constantely about Pacquaio's opposition then are absolutley fine with Martinez fighting Darren Barker and defend it. It's a joke.

Beating a faded, hadn't won a fight in 2 years, unranked Margarito is better than beating Darren Barker.

Atleast Margarito was once a World Class level a few years earlier, and in his career at all, something Barker has never done.

Atleast he had been in there with World level fighter a year prior, something that Barker has never done.

Atleast Margarito has once been ranked in the Top 10 at World level. Something Barker has never done.

Atleast Margarito has had over a handful fights above Domestic level. Something Barker hadn't.

The Barker fight was an asbolute, epitome of Cherry picking and utterly **** fights. Since the 'Mission' is to expose cherry picking you should be all over that fight.

Low and behold, you aren't. I wonder why..

[noekin3]

And what the **** does that have to do with anything?

Are you saying because he was the European Champion this has some kind of correlation with European fighters dominating divisions???



Wow.

You critisize Pac for fighting Margarito coming off fighting a 'Beer vendor' yet Barker who's career literally consists of Garcia level opposition is a legit win?

You moan constantely about Pacquaio's opposition then are absolutley fine with Martinez fighting Darren Barker and defend it. It's a joke.

Beating a faded, hadn't won a fight in 2 years, unranked Margarito is better than beating Darren Barker.

Atleast Margarito was once a World Class level a few years earlier, and in his career at all, something Barker has never done.

Atleast he had been in there with World level fighter a year prior, something that Barker has never done.

Atleast Margarito has once been ranked in the Top 10 at World level. Something Barker has never done.

Atleast Margarito has had over a handful fights above Domestic level. Something Barker hadn't.

The Barker fight was an asbolute, epitome of Cherry picking and utterly **** fights. Since the 'Mission' is to expose cherry picking you should be all over that fight.

Low and behold, you aren't. I wonder why..

Right on the money.......the people in this forum is something else.........Barker was a joke fight from a p4p fighter, 0 threat....was no bum (i thought he was), but it presents no threat.

Comparing Barker(who?), vs Margarito(any time in hes career), GTFOH ******s ****ks ! ! ! ........

[Bushbaby]

And what the **** does that have to do with anything?

Are you saying because he was the European Champion this has some kind of correlation with European fighters dominating divisions???



Wow.

You critisize Pac for fighting Margarito coming off fighting a 'Beer vendor' yet Barker who's career literally consists of Garcia level opposition is a legit win?

You moan constantely about Pacquaio's opposition then are absolutley fine with Martinez fighting Darren Barker and defend it. It's a joke.

Beating a faded, hadn't won a fight in 2 years, unranked Margarito is better than beating Darren Barker.

Atleast Margarito was once a World Class level a few years earlier, and in his career at all, something Barker has never done.

Atleast he had been in there with World level fighter a year prior, something that Barker has never done.

Atleast Margarito has once been ranked in the Top 10 at World level. Something Barker has never done.

Atleast Margarito has had over a handful fights above Domestic level. Something Barker hadn't.

The Barker fight was an asbolute, epitome of Cherry picking and utterly **** fights. Since the 'Mission' is to expose cherry picking you should be all over that fight.

Low and behold, you aren't. I wonder why..

Barker is a better fighter than Margarito right now, period.

[IronDanHamza]

Barker is a better fighter than Margarito right now, period.

That's argubale.

What has Barker done in his career to suggest he should fight on a World Level?

Atleast, Margarito had world level experience and former world level ability going into this fight with Pacquaio.

Your stance is so blatently hypocritial it's painful.

You don't slate this blatent cherry pick by Martinez at all. And never have. And use senseless, idiotic statments like; "Barker is undefeated" "Barker is prime" Barker is European Champion" () to try and defend this cherry pick that is worse than anything Mayweather and Pacquiao have ever done since they have been at the top.

Like I said, beating Barker is about as legit as Mayweather beating Henry Bruseless and Cotto beating Micheal Jennings.

The fight was an absolute joke from the day it was signed.

[Bushbaby]

That's argubale.

What has Barker done in his career to suggest he should fight on a World Level?

Atleast, Margarito had world level experience and former world level ability going into this fight with Pacquaio.

Your stance is so blatently hypocritial it's painful.

You don't slate this blatent cherry pick by Martinez at all. And never have. And use senseless, idiotic statments like; "Barker is undefeated" "Barker is prime" Barker is European Champion" () to try and defend this cherry pick that is worse than anything Mayweather and Pacquiao have ever done since they have been at the top.

Like I said, beating Barker is about as legit as Mayweather beating Henry Bruseless and Cotto beating Micheal Jennings.

The fight was an absolute joke from the day it was signed.

It really isn't arguable, in case you did not know, Barker went 11 rounds with a top pfp fighter in the world. Competitively. Margarito's last good fight on an elite level was Cotto in 2008 & it is controversial due to him being caught trying to cheat against Mosley in his very next fight. Your trying too hard & owning urself. Barker fought well, better than expected on the world class level on saturday, period. Margarito hasn't since 08 Fact.

[SplitSecond]

It really isn't arguable, in case you did not know, Barker went 11 rounds with a top pfp fighter in the world. Competitively. Margarito's last good fight on an elite level was Cotto in 2008 & it is controversial due to him being caught trying to cheat against Mosley in his very next fight. Your trying too hard & owning urself. Barker fought well, better than expected on the world class level on saturday, period. Margarito hasn't since 08 Fact.

well you ****in idiot, going by your logic margarito is definitely better than barker considering he went the full twelve, hurt(body and head) the p4p #1 fighter of the world

[IronDanHamza]

It really isn't arguable, in case you did not know, Barker went 11 rounds with a top pfp fighter in the world. Competitively. Margarito's last good fight on an elite level was Cotto in 2008 & it is controversial due to him being caught trying to cheat against Mosley in his very next fight. Your trying too hard & owning urself. Barker fought well, better than expected on the world class level on saturday, period. Margarito hasn't since 08 Fact.

Barker being competitive with Martinez is a testment to how good Martinez actually is. Not Barker.

I'm trying to hard and owning myself? Look in the mirror.

This is the guy who b*tches and moans about Pacquaio and Mayweather's opposition all day, makes thread's about there cherrypicking yet doesn't say a peep about Martinez blatent cherry pick of a fighter who has barely fought above domestic level.

Say's some of the most ****** **** I've ever read like "Barker is the European Champion, and European's are dominating the Division"

There is a blatent double standard.

The fact is; Martinez cherrypicked a fighter that has barely ever fought above domestic level. And had 1 fight after his lay-off, at Euro Level, and looked distinctly average. And hasn't won a legit fight in his entire career.

Which is clearly worse than anything Pacquaio and Mayweather have done in years. In terms of cherry picks.

Yet, you defend it.

It's genuinely pathetic.

[jrosales13]

[mrlopez]

I dont remember what article it was

but Serg's handlers were saying the reason the reason they wont let him fight @ 168 is cause he's more of a natural welterweight/super welterweight.
With that said, he should fight Pac @ 147 if thats the case

[Bushbaby]

Barker being competitive with Martinez is a testment to how good Martinez actually is. Not Barker.

I'm trying to hard and owning myself? Look in the mirror.

This is the guy who b*tches and moans about Pacquaio and Mayweather's opposition all day, makes thread's about there cherrypicking yet doesn't say a peep about Martinez blatent cherry pick of a fighter who has barely fought above domestic level.

Say's some of the most ****** **** I've ever read like "Barker is the European Champion, and European's are dominating the Division"

There is a blatent double standard.

The fact is; Martinez cherrypicked a fighter that has barely ever fought above domestic level. And had 1 fight after his lay-off, at Euro Level, and looked distinctly average. And hasn't won a legit fight in his entire career.

Which is clearly worse than anything Pacquaio and Mayweather have done in years. In terms of cherry picks.

Yet, you defend it.

It's genuinely pathetic.

So Martinez is no good because Barker was competitive? Is that your angle? because in Pacman's very last fight he followed a clearly shot 40 year old around the ring like an amateur & allowed Mosley to make the final bell. Martinez stopped Barker,Pacman didn't stop Mosley, what does that say about him? By your standards & all. It's not clearly worse cherrypickin on Martinez's part, he gave an undefeated fighter a chance at fighting on the world class level. Something Pacman has not done at all as a welterweight & something Floyd has only done once.