if sergio wants pac, 150 is where its at...

[iNDOLiFER]

And where do you justify JMM at 144 in all this , after all Pac is CW natural JWW right ,,,,, *** Manny and his bull**** CW fights .

And he will never fight Sergio as long as his ass points to the ground , Pac dont take any risks like that , if he cant CW them to an advantage for him he dont fight .

no way!! so your telling me all pacman's fights were CW?? that cant be!! thats well over 50+ fights, damm catch weight king i guess.

[southpaw!!]

And where do you justify JMM at 144 in all this , after all Pac is CW natural JWW right ,,,,, *** Manny and his bull**** CW fights .

And he will never fight Sergio as long as his ass points to the ground , Pac dont take any risks like that , if he cant CW them to an advantage for him he dont fight .

ok lets get some things correct

marquez was calling pacquiao out. he's the one that cant sell a ppv.

explain to me this. marquez hasnt ever sold a ppv by himself. how is he gonna call pacquiao out and demand he comes down to 135 or 140? explain to me that

pacquiao did a catchweight bout at 144 FOR MARQUEZ'S advantage. they could of easily made the fight at 147 just for the hell of it.

[Uncle Howie]

pac is a natural jww......above that aint really his best but his god given talents still allows him to beat topnotch fighters....margo was only a pound smaller than last saturday's sergio when he fought pac and that fight took place at 150,why cant he do it?..he can always weigh as much as he wants come fight night.....pwill just fought him at mw and even he was willing to fight pac at 147......pac aint asking him to fight at ww, intead at a catchweight of a division he use to rule not too long ago.....so him not willing to fight at 150 does'nt mean he's ducking but also does'nt mean he really wants it bad enough!.....

*****NEWS FLASH*****

Martinez KO's Pac at any wieght!

[Reloaded]

ok lets get some things correct

marquez was calling pacquiao out. he's the one that cant sell a ppv.

explain to me this. marquez hasnt ever sold a ppv by himself. how is he gonna call pacquiao out and demand he comes down to 135 or 140? explain to me that

pacquiao did a catchweight bout at 144 FOR MARQUEZ'S advantage. they could of easily made the fight at 147 just for the hell of it.

The weight is not JMM advantage it is Pacs advantage , as usual , and only a fool new to boxing would think otherwise , or a ******* lol .

Do you realize the trilogy they have going and how close the other 2 fights were , this one wont be close and the reason is weight you didnt hear Pac saying he was going to KO JMM in either of the first 2 did you , whats changed lol .

There is a moral element to this , an honor thing , and Pac has scammed JMM at this weight to get an easy and clear win and then he wants to claim this fight to seal the trilogy ,,,,, you dont see the scam in this , you dont see the kick in the ass JMM is getting , at your age and with your Pac bias you wouldnt .

no way!! so your telling me all pacman's fights were CW?? that cant be!! thats well over 50+ fights, damm catch weight king i guess.

Pac was just a top class fighter until he moved up and started manipulating CWs and opponents with 26 ft rings , unofficial gloves and paper titles , he turned into plastic man after Dias where he wants advantages or he wont fight , so no its not Pacs whole career it his WW career that is a made to order scam .

[KickAzz]

There is a moral element to this , an honor thing , and Pac has scammed JMM at this weight ,,,,, you dont see the scam in this , you dont see the kick in the ass JMM is getting.

well, pac didn't really scam jmm... jmm is the one who begged pac for a fight and beggars can't be choosers.

personally, I think roach and arum should've made the fight at 140 lbs cause pac should be able to make that easily, but roach and arum don't wanna give jmm any help.

its not Pacs whole career it his WW career that is a made to order scam .

c'mon son... nobody put a gun to anybody's head to force them to fight pac at a CW... the blame falls solely one those people for giving up the advantage

[hugh grant]

Floyd shouldbe fightingh Sergio, Sergio has called Floyd out enough times.

Didnt Floyd make the excuse he offered Cotto a fight, but Cotto didnt take it? Well, when is Floyd going to offer Sergio a fight, lets see if Sergio takes it?

Floyd cant use that excuse here. Why wont floyd take it? Todays version of SRL vs Hagler, or Duran vs Hagler whichever you want to see it.

[dosepulgada]

Then,
Pac: Fight me.
Floyd: Take the test!

Now,
Pac: Im willing to take all your ****** tests.
Floyd: Uhhmmm....take the test?
- - - - - - - - - -

Serg: Fight me.
Floyd:Take the test.
Serg: OK. All take any tests you want.
Floyd: You aint got no money.

- - - - - - - - - -
Amir: Cmon Floyd, Fight me.
Floyd: OK.

After months of waiting,
Amir: Hey Floyd, whaddup?
Floyd: Take my kid Vargas first, or Presscott....
Amir: WTF!

[IronDanHamza]

It's getting pathetic when you sit there & ask what has Barker done? Just as much as Margarito, Mosley Marquez at 147 & Clottey did, oh wait, never mind, he was winning.

It's getting pathetic? I agree.

Let's face it, you know nothing about Darren Barker. You first heard of him when Martinez signed to fight him.

I have followed Darren Barker's entire career of 23 fights.

The only reason you support this fight is solely because he was fighitng Martinez. Which again highlights your obvious bias.

Then you bring up Mora for Mosley. Forrest gave Mora his chance. Cotto gave Torres his chance. Ortiz gave Maidana his chance Judah gave Mattysse his chance, just like Martinez gave Barker his chance.

Most of those were ranked fighters.

However, Ricardo Torres is about as good a win for Cotto as Barker is for Martinez.

Mosley Margarito & Marquez are worse because all they bring are names. None were quality opponents when Pacman beat them. Floyd gave Ortiz a chance & between Floyd & Pacman, that was the only fighter that either guy gave a chance to at welterweight.

Barker is worse because he isn't a quality opponet and isn't a big name.

And has no world level experience and done nothing in his career although he's coming 30.

Tell me did Mosley work his way up to Pacman, did Margarito, did Clottey, or even Marquez? No they did not. They worked down the ladder, but got the call anyway. Barker will fight again, & he'll look good against quality & we'll see it now that he made a name, Just like Torres, Maidana,Mattysse & all the others that got a shot. Were they cherrypicked maybe, but they were quality that no one would have known about if a star fighter didn'nt give them opertunity.

They didn't.

Again, I don't support those fights. Never have.

You don't, yet, you have no issue with Barker for Martinez.

That's the issue, you have an obvious double standard.

At worst they're all as bad as each other.

Everyone knows who was going to win when Pacman fought Mosley, everyone knows who's going to win when he fights Marquez. He could have given a Jones a shot, or a Berto or countless other young fighters, he chose old men. There's a mighty difference.

And everyone knew he was going to win last weekend.

Martinez was a 25/1 favourite in some bookies in the UK. Barker's country.

Does that mean anything to you?

Mayweather and Pacquaio have NEVER been such huge favourites in their entire career's. Let alone in the last few years.

That's because Barker is such a terrible opponent. Shamelessly cherry picked by Sergio Martinez.

And fanboy's like yourself not only don't critisize it but actually defend it.

[iNDOLiFER]

The weight is not JMM advantage it is Pacs advantage , as usual , and only a fool new to boxing would think otherwise , or a ******* lol .

Do you realize the trilogy they have going and how close the other 2 fights were , this one wont be close and the reason is weight you didnt hear Pac saying he was going to KO JMM in either of the first 2 did you , whats changed lol .

There is a moral element to this , an honor thing , and Pac has scammed JMM at this weight to get an easy and clear win and then he wants to claim this fight to seal the trilogy ,,,,, you dont see the scam in this , you dont see the kick in the ass JMM is getting , at your age and with your Pac bias you wouldnt .


Pac was just a top class fighter until he moved up and started manipulating CWs and opponents with 26 ft rings , unofficial gloves and paper titles , he turned into plastic man after Dias where he wants advantages or he wont fight , so no its not Pacs whole career it his WW career that is a made to order scam .

why is that when manny goes down in weight to fight smaller guys, he's cheating? why is it that when he goes up in weight to fight bigger guys, he's cheating? is manny suppose to just climb up to 154 and fight the bigger guys there then drop back down to 135-140 to fight the smaller guys there? if manny wont or cant do this then he's cheating? how so?? he's meeting them in between from the weight their fighting at and his so how is this cheating??

[Bushbaby]

It's getting pathetic? I agree.

Let's face it, you know nothing about Darren Barker. You first heard of him when Martinez signed to fight him.

I have followed Darren Barker's entire career of 23 fights.

The only reason you support this fight is solely because he was fighitng Martinez. Which again highlights your obvious bias.



I've never heard of him, yes, but I was impressed with the performance.


Most of those were ranked fighters.

However, Ricardo Torres is about as good a win for Cotto as Barker is for Martinez.


I agree & Torres went on to become champion & have some entertaining fights with Holt after the exposer with Cotto.



Barker is worse because he isn't a quality opponet and isn't a big name.

And has no world level experience and done nothing in his career although he's coming 30.


Big name & quality are not the same. Winky Wright was all quality with no big name, what does name have to do with anything outside of draw power?


They didn't.

Again, I don't support those fights. Never have.

You don't, yet, you have no issue with Barker for Martinez.

That's the issue, you have an obvious double standard.

At worst they're all as bad as each other.


At worst they are as bad as each other, but the fact remains that Barker was billed as the easiest fight for Martinez in years,(although he wasn't). Pacman's been taking on nothing but easy fights, with Margarito & Mosley heading south quicker than pan Am flight 103. When they got the fights.



And everyone knew he was going to win last weekend.

Martinez was a 25/1 favourite in some bookies in the UK. Barker's country.

Does that mean anything to you?

Mayweather and Pacquaio have NEVER been such huge favourites in their entire career's. Let alone in the last few years.

That's because Barker is such a terrible opponent. Shamelessly cherry picked by Sergio Martinez.

And fanboy's like yourself not only don't critisize it but actually defend it.

I'd criticize the fight if Barker was a chump that got blown away. Turned out to be a good fighter making a name for himself on the world class level. He's now a name to watch for. he isn't in the twilight of his career, he just approached the next level.