Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez: I'll Challenge Pacquiao For His 154 Title

[jtiger78]

PAC IS GOING TO FIGHT SHANE MOSLEY!!!!!!! HES NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY EARN THE TITLE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM MARTINEZ FOR HIM TO EARN!

I HAVE TO RE POST THIS

Originally Posted by WESS
Former LMW champ and current MW champ Sergio Martinez who stands 5'10 and fought MOST of his career at 147 and 154 is exposing the fact that Pac's opponents have been selected to suit his style. As Bernard made a very solid argument with styles, racial yes but it is solid as Pac's record speaks for itself.

Martinez is in fact smaller than Hoya who stands 5'10 1/2 even though Hoya couldn't hydrate to his "normal" size because he hadn't been at 147 in a decade but that's not Pac's fought right?

Martinez is in fact smaller than Margarito who stands 5'11 and "agreed" to a catchweight of 150 but it's not Pac's fought that Cheato couldn't fully hydrate to his "normal" weight right? It's not Pac's fault these BIGGER guys where shot and couldn't fully hydrate to there "normal" size....

Martinez wants to challenge Pac for his OLD title and offer Pac a NEW title to add to his other 8 (so to speak), why would this be a problem? Because Pac cant make it past 147 let alone 154? That's not Martinez's fault or OUR fault now is it? Pac has a title at 154. Fact. Martinez held that title back in June and wants to fight for it. What's the problem?

Martinez vs Pac at 154, or else it validates that Pac has been "hand picking" bums to suit his style, wants and needs in order to win.

Man people are really going to hate "nice guy" Martinez because of exposing Pac. Mayweather already exposed pac is scared of needles, blood and strenuous PED testing. Mosley and Roach have exposed that Pac doesn't want to fight "too good" fighters. Arum has exposed that he doesn't like to deal/share money with Golden Boy or Floyd....

Man Pac's really feeling the pressure now. What if Floyd returns and accepts Pac's alleged contract he sent stating that he WILL IN FACT take unlimited and random OST up until the fight with ZERO cut offs or warnings of when the tests will be? Will he fight Mayweather? Will he fight Martinez? Or will they hand select Mosley who hasn't won a fight since 2008, or JMM at 147 when we already know he cant fight there. Or will it be Cotto II?

Top Rank better choose wisely.....

[jrosales13]

No it's not. Its the "FUNNY" truth. You know it, I know it... man up and admit it.

There is NO argument here. Pac has 154 "title". He fought for it. He won it, regardless of how shyt and shot the guy he beat to get it was. It's not Pac's fault right????

Why are we lowering the standards just to suit Pac?

I mean really, some of you are REALLY digging and trying your little hearts out to defend this 150 vs fighting at 154 where the commission set the standard at.

Why do we hold such low standards for Pac? He wanted to claim a title at 154. He did. Now its time to man up and ACTUALLY earn that title. Not "cherry pick" it. Again Martinez is exposing Arum, Roach and Pac's "selections"...

My post was serious in a non-serious way. It was dead on but with humor. Come on, you know the logic, or lack of with some of the posters here. It makes sense and very easy to understand.

If you claim that Pac holds a "title" at 154 than there is NO argument as weather Martinez who stands 5'10 and fought MOST OF HIS CAREER at 147 and 154 is legit or not.

Martinez is claiming what is RIGHTFULLY his and is willing to offer a bonus to Pac in "Pac's style" of things. (He doesn't even have to weigh at MW to win it). Why is this now such a no no?

Margarito: 5'11
Hoya: 5'10 1/2
Martinez: 5'10

Obviously you have me confuse with somebody else and just rambling...

Again speak with logic or just don't speak at all.

[znarfv_y2k8]

And Pac was destroyed by a couple of fighters that we don't
even hear about no more. Hell Pac got flamed up by JMM.
Williams was a better win than De La Hoya, Cotto, Clottey
and Margarito put together. Williams beat Margarito back
when he was winning and Martinez technically beat Williams
twice, the first being a controversial decision and the 2nd
fight a blow out! When was the lat time Pac fought anyone
that EVERYONE thought would beat him? (Not just me).

Watch the video again between Margarito vs Martinez, they're both the same fighter, same style nothing has changed...Watch Pacquiao's loses, before too young & all heart...Pacquiao is totally different today too skillful, that is called development...Accomplishment speaks...

[OpaiSoma]

why are people saying 160 and it be too big. martinez is saying he drop down to 154 and fight for the title that manny jsut won at 150(since 154 is the official weight limit) and he will also defend his wbc middleweight title the same time. without anyone having to go up to 160. whats so hard to understand. if manny is too small for 154 why does he have a belt and get credit for it? oh yeah anything manny does is ok. even though he beat a big slow punching bag that wasnt even ranked in the divison for the title. cherry picking hand picked whatever you want to call it i call bull****.

win a title against a live good real champion.

Because realisticly he would come out 168 and pac being 148. and if trully are boxer you should know the difference. I dare you to get in their with a boxer thats 20lbs heavier than you with all the advantage that he has, i bet your pu$$y ass would say otherwise. Your fawking hate makes you think illogically thats why you wouldnt see the difference.

[ИATAS]

PAC IS GOING TO FIGHT SHANE MOSLEY!!!!!!! HES NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY EARN THE TITLE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM MARTINEZ FOR HIM TO EARN!

I HAVE TO RE POST THIS

Originally Posted by WESS
Former LMW champ and current MW champ Sergio Martinez who stands 5'10 and fought MOST of his career at 147 and 154 is exposing the fact that Pac's opponents have been selected to suit his style. As Bernard made a very solid argument with styles, racial yes but it is solid as Pac's record speaks for itself.

Martinez is in fact smaller than Hoya who stands 5'10 1/2 even though Hoya couldn't hydrate to his "normal" size because he hadn't been at 147 in a decade but that's not Pac's fought right?

Martinez is in fact smaller than Margarito who stands 5'11 and "agreed" to a catchweight of 150 but it's not Pac's fought that Cheato couldn't fully hydrate to his "normal" weight right? It's not Pac's fault these BIGGER guys where shot and couldn't fully hydrate to there "normal" size....

Martinez wants to challenge Pac for his OLD title and offer Pac a NEW title to add to his other 8 (so to speak), why would this be a problem? Because Pac cant make it past 147 let alone 154? That's not Martinez's fault or OUR fault now is it? Pac has a title at 154. Fact. Martinez held that title back in June and wants to fight for it. What's the problem?

Martinez vs Pac at 154, or else it validates that Pac has been "hand picking" bums to suit his style, wants and needs in order to win.

Man people are really going to hate "nice guy" Martinez because of exposing Pac. Mayweather already exposed pac is scared of needles, blood and strenuous PED testing. Mosley and Roach have exposed that Pac doesn't want to fight "too good" fighters. Arum has exposed that he doesn't like to deal/share money with Golden Boy or Floyd....

Man Pac's really feeling the pressure now. What if Floyd returns and accepts Pac's alleged contract he sent stating that he WILL IN FACT take unlimited and random OST up until the fight with ZERO cut offs or warnings of when the tests will be? Will he fight Mayweather? Will he fight Martinez? Or will they hand select Mosley who hasn't won a fight since 2008, or JMM at 147 when we already know he cant fight there. Or will it be Cotto II?

Top Rank better choose wisely.....

How much would martinez weigh on FIGHT NIGHT against pacquiao if they fought at 154 pounds? The answer is around or above 170 pounds.

[IMDAZED]

How much would martinez weigh on FIGHT NIGHT against pacquiao if they fought at 154 pounds? The answer is around or above 170 pounds.

I thought 168 was the highest I've ever seen him go up. Why would he weigh more after going back down? That doesn't make sense. I'd guess he'd be about 162-165.

[pnksntdead]

simple, sergio ko's manny at 154 and manny ko's sergio at 150 because neither have any business in those weight classes. for the *****s that bash manny for making high $$ fights at catch weights against bigger fighters, what do you about floyd refusing tough fights because of $$?? two way street here, fighters try to make money while they can, sometimes even at the expense of the fans' entertainment. live with it, that's life. it's up to the fanboy to make excuses and ****** justifications.

[M.I.C.]

Yeah you can challenge Pac for his 154 lb title at 150 or less lbs.

[jrosales13]

so pac was seriously hurt vs margarito??????? Hell no he got hit a few times and it did nothing to him! And if he did get hurt its a part of boxing he was never in any sort of danger of losing not even close!!!! The fight wasnt even competitive at all pac won every round in convicing fashion, peice of cake for pac! But now martinez is mentioned and he was hurt vs marg so they pull out of the division?

U get the 154 title at a 150 catchweight to make history... Everyone brags on the acomplishment talking about how hes killing all these bigger fighters... But then it comes time to defend it against the best in the division n hes just too big???

WTF are you talking about? Bragging about the 8 title accomplishments? Do you not realize only nuthuggers are bragging about that? No true Pac fan is bragging about that. GTFOH, are you too dumb to realize that.

Just cuz you win every round doesn't mean is cake, he got hurt a couple times to the body and a few upper cuts that he ate.

Again did or did he not say that he was hurt in that fight? Did he or did he not had to cancel a couple of appearances because he was just not fit to do it after the fight? ANd, this was all before the Martinez fight man.

Again, you saying it is not possible that they tried it and didn't like it? I mean he weighed in at 144 and on fight night, I repeat fight night was 148 FFS's man. More than likely he will vacate that title, he is already a small WW let alone at JMW?

Come on are all you guys this dense?

[WESS]

WTF are you rambling about. Make sense and speak logically when you talk to me...

If you can't or is not possible then lets not discuss boxing.

I was agreeing with you on the Pac vs JMM fight.....

BUT was saying that it should be looked at AFTER all the names I mentioned first.

Was it really that hard to understand?