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  • GRUSTLER
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    #161
    Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
    What excuses? Pound for Pound??? It was a lucky punch, Compubox showed that Williams edges Martinez...Avenge his lose to Margarito where he was destroyed before...Still more to prove...
    If you call that left hand Martinez hit Williams with a lucky
    punch then you obviously do not know anything about boxing
    or you wasn't watching the fight. Martinez caught Williams with
    that same punch numerous times in the first fight and even in
    the second one before he put him out. Martinez even told
    Diabella that he would knock Williams out. More excuses
    Martinez would flame Pac up, PERIOD.

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    • lopez36
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      #162
      Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
      Your guy Martinez was before destroyed before by Margarito & hasn't prove bigger things yet but your mouth & head is too early getting bigger...It needs to be shut off, avenge the lose to Margarito first...Accomplishments speak for itself not only by a lucky punch...
      lucky punch? how is that a lucky punch when williams is always wide open when he throws punches? his defense is awful,martinez in first fight landed a lot of punches like that,even in the rematch in first round he landed a few similar to the one that ko'd him,,,i can understand a lucky punch if it were against a guy with great defense,and even so i wouldn't call it lucky,that was a punch that doesn't surprise me at all,looking at paul's defense,no surprise

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      • jrosales13
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        #163
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER
        Come on man! Lets keep it 100 here. Manny is going to be
        small no matter who he goes against in the higher weights.
        Manny fought De La Hoya, Cotto, Clottey who were bigger
        and stronger than him and he did just fine. Roach knows
        what Manny is capable of and so does Pac himself. Manny
        is capable of dominating slow, no defense fighters but a
        live wire like Martinez would be too much and able to win
        over Pac and that's the reason why the fight won't happen.
        Margarito was just put there to make Pac look good while
        he won his 8th division catchweight title. Margarito wasn't
        even ranked there to get a title shot.
        There is a difference in size between a JMW especially one who is a MW and a WW bro....

        If you don't know that then there is nothing else that I can tell you.

        And, for the record Manny is NOT rank at JMW by the ring and boxingscene. There is a reason. But, it seems like you too blind to see it.

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        • MegatronCEN*CAL
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          #164
          Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
          What excuses? Pound for Pound??? It was a lucky punch, Compubox showed that Williams edges Martinez...Avenge his lose to Margarito where he was destroyed before...Still more to prove...
          Lucky punch? LMAO!!!

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          • WESS
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            #165
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            And Pac was destroyed by a couple of fighters that we don't
            even hear about no more. Hell Pac got flamed up by JMM.
            Williams was a better win than De La Hoya, Cotto, Clottey
            and Margarito put together. Williams beat Margarito back
            when he was winning and Martinez technically beat Williams
            twice, the first being a controversial decision and the 2nd
            fight a blow out! When was the lat time Pac fought anyone
            that EVERYONE thought would beat him
            ? (Not just me).
            Arguably Cotto. I know I thought Cotto would get him even when factoring in his beating he took from the cheat and the WEAK "catchweight". I was stuck for a while but went with Cotto. PULLCOUNTER almost got me to swtich but I stuck with Cotto and accepted defeat and gave Pac props and consider it a "good" win. Could have been "great" if he didnt ask for a "catch" as he ALREADY fought and beat the much "BIGGER" De La Hoya.

            The only other time I bet against Pac was vs JMM II. Since then its been REALLY easy.... hell Roach practically gives it away. Plus when a fighter is shot and coming off losses or not even ranked its not hard. Not to mention almost all of them having the EXACT same style.

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              #166
              Originally posted by WESS
              Your right, BUT how is that different than his "selections" of late? Anyway I would accept Pac vs JMM AT or below. Maybe bust out with a demand that you can't weigh OVER 140 fight night clause.... lol Thats not cheap right?

              BUT.....
              That assuming Mayweather never came back to boxing or that Pac never fully agreed to Mayweather's random and unlimited OST demand (like he said he agreed to yet still no proof of it)

              then if....
              Martinez at 154 didn't happen
              Berto at 147 didn't happen
              Kirkland at 147 (after a tune up) didn't happen
              Bradley/Alexander at 140-147 didn't happen
              Assuming Pac couldn't or didn't get those fights made and was willing to drop down to 140 or below I would be game for JMM.

              Still at that point, Pac beats JMM, I wonder if Pac thinks so.
              WTF are you rambling about. Make sense and speak logically when you talk to me...

              If you can't or is not possible then lets not discuss boxing.

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              • boxer2k5
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                #167
                Originally posted by lopez36
                the problem is martinez isn't a beat up fighter,he isn't coming off a defeat ...so the answer is no,manny will not fight him...the only way is if you get beat up in your next fight and come down to 150 and are weak,thats the only way
                you already know what are the qualifications to fight manny. you must be comming off a lost or been knockedout in your last 2 fights. you must show no signs of defense and your only goal is to go for a ko.

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                • MegatronCEN*CAL
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
                  Nothing to say, what's your point...It's known in the boxing world who is Pacquiao...I think you live in the past, you've just wake up...
                  "You've just wake up" what the **** does that mean? I don't understand this English.

                  Hey, Manny is the 154 lb 'champ', isn't he?

                  He should defend that 'belt' he has, right? Ohhhh but because it is Sergio Martinez, all of the sudden there is a problem. Oh he is not slow and one-dimensional like Margarito. I get it.

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                  • lopez36
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8
                    What excuses? Pound for Pound??? It was a lucky punch, Compubox showed that Williams edges Martinez...Avenge his lose to Margarito where he was destroyed before...Still more to prove...
                    are you for real?? 10 more punches he landed,wow...it was only the second round dude,you don't know what would of happened,good thing they already had fought and showed how awful williams defense is and martinez hit him all the time,,,,and who cares about the margarito fight,no sense if fighting him now,hope he doesn't because margarito just got beat up and i wouldn't want martinez following in the steps of pacquiao,fight guys who just recently got beat up,

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                    • MegatronCEN*CAL
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by boxer2k5
                      you already know what are the qualifications to fight manny. you must be comming off a lost or been knockedout in your last 2 fights. you must show no signs of defense and your only goal is to go for a ko.
                      You must be a slow, one-dimensional fighter to fight Manny.

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