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  • imisupu
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    #71
    Originally posted by adp023
    De La Hoya was the favorite against Manny. Hatton was still young at 30 and an undefeated champ at 140 lbs!! Whereas, Shane will be 39 by spring 2011! Nice try though...lol
    Excuse me buddy learn boxing Hatton was fresh off his knock out loss to Floyd when him and Manny fought just like De la Hoya had just loss to Floyd so you should learn boxing before you speak to me!!! You Pacman fan's have ton's of excuses why he shouldn't fight Shane or Paul but he just fought Margs who they both dominated so give me a real excuse besides age because that isn't going to work this time! I have an excuse for Manny doesn't want to suffer his 3rd knock out defeat!!!! Shane or Paul has never been KTFO but Manny has TWICE!!!!

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    • Boxing's Truth
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      #72
      Dam!! I've been posting the same sentiments all along. Why hasn't Pac fought any American black fighters? You mean to tell me there are none.

      Is Floyd the only one?

      I will keep repeating this until I turn blue. Pac's camp sets up fights that are conducive to Pac's style. The notion that Pac is fighting everyone is bullcrap. Pac is fighting everyone that present a lucrative financial opportunity and everyone that has a particular style.

      But I don't knock Pac for that. He's getting paid. I wish I could do it. But what gets me going is when dumbass Pac fans think that Pac will fight anyone put in front of him when his fights are well planned and selected.

      And the reason why I think Pac doesn't fight American black fighter is not because the Pac camp is racist, it's because many of the black fighters here in the US are technical boxers and not just stand up ****ers.

      But this is nothing new to people who know a little about boxing.

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      • aikhan
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        #73
        What a ****** argument to criticise Pac. I've heard this point made a number of times and it's the most ridiculous thing i've heard. Pac has fought the best possible opposition, regardless of race. I think some of the black american fans will not be satisfied, unless the top fighter is a black american. Understandable that you support your own race and countrymen, but I've not seen anyone other than black americans who criticise Pac, in the whole Pac vs Floyd debate.
        Throughout history there has been many amazing black american fighters - Robinson, Louis, Ali, and the list goes on - but today the sport is attracting talent from across the globe more and more - and right now a little man from the Philippines has proved more than anybody that he is the best figher in the sport. There are'nt any black american fighters other than Mayweather who would make sense as Pac's next opponent.

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        • imisupu
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          #74
          Originally posted by Boxing's Truth
          Dam!! I've been posting the same sentiments all along. Why hasn't Pac fought any American black fighters? You mean to tell me there are none.

          Is Floyd the only one?

          I will keep repeating this until I turn blue. Pac's camp sets up fights that are conducive to Pac's style. The notion that Pac is fighting everyone is bullcrap. Pac is fighting everyone that present a lucrative financial opportunity and everyone that has a particular style.

          But I don't knock Pac for that. He's getting paid. I wish I could do it. But what gets me going is when dumbass Pac fans think that Pac will fight anyone put in front of him when his fights are well planned and selected.

          And the reason why I think Pac doesn't fight American black fighter is not because the Pac camp is racist, it's because many of the black fighters here in the US are technical boxers and not just stand up ****ers.

          But this is nothing new to people who know a little about boxing.
          I agree 100% but I'm not taking up for Floyd at all but I know that Freddie and Bob think people are ****** but I'm not! And you don't sound like you have been fooled either my friend nice post!!!

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          • Tamis!
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            #75


            So Bhop wasn't around or paying attention when Pac destroyed Ledwaba in just 2 weeks notice for the fight as a late shoo-in, and running away with the Super Bantamweight Championship....

            And Clottey's not black? (though he's not top fighter caliber)



            What's with all those colours rant?

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            • IMDAZED
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              #76
              Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya


              So Bhop wasn't around or paying attention when Pac destroyed Ledwaba in just 2 weeks notice for the fight as a late shoo-in, and running away with the Super Bantamweight Championship....

              And Clottey's not black? (though he's not top fighter caliber)



              What's with all those colours rant?
              Honestly...it's the dumbest **** ever.

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              • imisupu
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                #77
                Originally posted by aikhan
                What a ****** argument to criticise Pac. I've heard this point made a number of times and it's the most ridiculous thing i've heard. Pac has fought the best possible opposition, regardless of race. I think some of the black american fans will not be satisfied, unless the top fighter is a black american. Understandable that you support your own race and countrymen, but I've not seen anyone other than black americans who criticise Pac, in the whole Pac vs Floyd debate.
                Throughout history there has been many amazing black american fighters - Robinson, Louis, Ali, and the list goes on - but today the sport is attracting talent from across the globe more and more - and right now a little man from the Philippines has proved more than anybody that he is the best figher in the sport. There are'nt any black american fighters other than Mayweather who would make sense as Pac's next opponent.
                I think Pacman is the man right now and I'm black as they come, but I got pissed when Freddie said Shane doesn't deserve the fight and then they go through with the Margarito fight who got KTFO by Shane in his last real fight or they say Paul is to big but he is willing to go down to 147lbs and they let Margarito come in at 150LBS and Floyd is a ***** enough said! explain that Pac fan's!!!!

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                • imisupu
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                  #78
                  Did Margarito make sense??? HELL NO! If Pac fan's start talking about making money then I'm going to hand you a mirror the next time I hear you mention Floyd's name becuase you are going to be using the Mayweather excuse for not fighting!!!

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by imisupu
                    I think Pacman is the man right now and I'm black as they come, but I got pissed when Freddie said Shane doesn't deserve the fight and then they go through with the Margarito fight who got KTFO by Shane in his last real fight or they say Paul is to big but he is willing to go down to 147lbs and they let Margarito come in at 150LBS and Floyd is a ***** enough said! explain that Pac fan's!!!!
                    not that hard to explain. money.

                    they thought marg was more money than mosley or pwill.

                    even if it's not true.....

                    bob arum makes more money with pac fighting marg. hence , he can pay pac more as well , if he has to to get it done.

                    also why shane had to declare himself a free agent to get a pac fight , with gbp-tr situation difficult for him to get a pac fight otherwise.

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                    • GRUSTLER
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                      #80
                      Floyd fight against Mosley at 147 was more of a impressive win
                      then Cotto/Clottey and even at 150 with Margarito. None of
                      those fighters were coming in the ring off of a dominate performance
                      like Mosley was. On top of that, people actually thought Mosley
                      would knocked Floyd out. In all of Pac's fights, people laughed at
                      me because I picked against him. How can those fights be so
                      impressive if mostly everyone knew who the winner would be?
                      I would be curious to see how Pac would fair against a fighter
                      who depends more on their skill rather than how big and powerful
                      they are. The way to beat Pac effectively is to let him come to
                      you and just pick him apart with counter shots using defense.
                      I remember JMM in the second fight when he let Pac come in
                      and was tagging him. Pac uses speed so, it benefits him if his
                      opponent is innitiating the action but if your patient and pick
                      your shots. Manny is right there to be hit. Pac has considerable
                      power but the fact that he does his damage with accumulation,
                      I could see a defensive, slick guy stopping his momentum by
                      avoiding, blocking his punches and countering.

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