If Pac and Floyd don't fight, the only way Floyd surpasses Pac is w/ a MW Title.

[bunce101]

if mayweather moved up he would fight martinez or williams at 160 not 154.1 like pacquaio would

[sigrab jr]

showing your boxing knowledge level here, when has floyd ever asked for a catchweight? Marquez wanted the catchweight not mayweather, mayweather isnt pacquaio the catchweight king, mayweather wants to weigh less than the limit, HE wWEIGHS LESS THAN THE LIMIT, he doesnt force his opponent to do so also, won his welterweight and superwelterweight titles at 147 and 154, not 145 and 150

Thanks, I am impersonating a ******* in this thread.

[Left Hook Tua]

showing your boxing knowledge level here, when has floyd ever asked for a catchweight? Marquez wanted the catchweight not mayweather, mayweather isnt pacquaio the catchweight king, mayweather wants to weigh less than the limit, HE wWEIGHS LESS THAN THE LIMIT, he doesnt force his opponent to do so also, won his welterweight and superwelterweight titles at 147 and 154, not 145 and 150

well it's obvious floyd didn't want the catchweight with jmm.

that's why he didn't bother making the weight.

[Left Hook Tua]

Thanks, I am impersonating a ******* in this thread.

well you do have the same size 6.5 feet as a lot of those tiny , filipino men.

[The Gambler1981]

Well we just agree to disagree, if he fights JMM above 135 I see a wide decision win for Pac. Or maybe even a stoppage.

Pac should not receive any credit, it would be just a waste of time. And, 3 tune-ups in a row. Shame on Pac if he fights JMM above 135.

But, yea lets agree to disagree.

I gave Floyd credit for beating a great smaller man, I would probably give Manny a bit more since I think he is closer to JMMs size (regardles of weight class) especialy if he did a better job and JMM looks good beating up Katsidas.

I am sure this isn't the first option so I really don't care that much, I guess he could fight a more threatening guy but the JMM fight to me makes the most sence (if things don't work out with Floyd).

To me I am quite happy when public preceptions goes against what I think, as a gambler that is when there is real money to be made.

[ummeed]

showing your boxing knowledge level here, when has floyd ever asked for a catchweight? Marquez wanted the catchweight not mayweather, mayweather isnt pacquaio the catchweight king, mayweather wants to weigh less than the limit, HE wWEIGHS LESS THAN THE LIMIT, he doesnt force his opponent to do so also, won his welterweight and superwelterweight titles at 147 and 154, not 145 and 150

reread his posts again. you're both sucking the same fighter's d1ck, quit picking a fight with him...

[RubenSonny]

Yes both reached HOF but HOF doesn't really mean ATG, Oscar is a HOF'er first ballot but not an ATG.

Yes I think Pac resume surpassed Floyd. IMO anyways Floyd has never beat anybody as great and as versatile as Marco Antonio Barrera, To me a draw with JMM is just as good as a win against the likes of Ndou, Bruseles, Mitchell, and that version of JMM that Floyd fought. Because, of how good that version of JMM at 126 was. Matter of fact I would not even mentioned Ndou, Bruseles, and Mitchell. I would replace them with Chicanito, Manfreddy, and Chavez. Ledwaba was a really good win too if you take that context of that win. And, Pac wins against Cotto and Hatton are legit and the way he won those fights was astonishing. Yes I say Pac is greater by a solid margin.

What I meant was they would be around the same level after you believe they reached their HOF-status I then listed the rest of their resumes since then and was asking you to compare them. I'd say the Castillo win is almost as good as Barrera since Castillo very underrated and big with great ability, I agree the Ledwaba win was very good and infact I'd rate it higher than his rematch with Morales. Hatton was also a legit good win but Floyd beat him too, The Cotto win was legit and very good I rate it about the same as Floyds win over Mosley.

[hugh grant]

Sorry, don't agree. Shane put the last of his career into prepping for Mayweather. He's done. Although I'm pretty sure he could cause Yuri Foreman to twist an ankle

Why do people think Floyd ruins fighters all the time?

If the JMM fight is not at 135 I will not give Pacquiao any respect or credit for beating JMM.

135 or no fight is my opinion.

But why does Pac have to fight JMM at a weight where JMM has a better chance? Why didnt the rule apply to FLoyd? Why couldnt floyd fight JMM at 140 if not 135?
Doesnt floyd budge from 147? When floyd wakes up he probably weighs 147. When he is 90 years old he will probably still weigh 147. He likes 147 dont he?

[al-Xander]

But why does Pac have to fight JMM at a weight where JMM has a better chance? Why didnt the rule apply to FLoyd? Why couldnt floyd fight JMM at 140 if not 135?

They still think of Manny as just an asian midget
undeserving of calling the shots. In their eyes
he is still the challenger. Which is why these folks
don't seem to follow boxing at all.

[STRUGG]

PWILL martinez winner.....................anda 140 who SHOULD be a future great......in a DOMINANT fashion will cut it in my opinion