If Pac and Floyd don't fight, the only way Floyd surpasses Pac is w/ a MW Title.

[jrosales13]

140 should be a good weight for the fight, Pac should be unhealth at 135 IMO, Its easier/better to go up than to drain yourself, If JMM goes up to 140 for the fight he should be fine.

Pac can easily make 140, I don't know about 135 but 140 he will be just as strong, just as fast, just as deadly.

While JMM will be older, moving up in weight again, more sluggish, slower, he just doesn't carry his attributes as good as Pac did or Floyd did or slow.

He has struggles at 135. Even in his last fight Juan Diaz did better than expected. I just think 135 is his limit.

[The Gambler1981]

But, JMM was asking for 50/50 in New Years though, so I don't know how much of a gangster he is...But, dude does have my respect.

However, above 135? He just can't hang with Pac. No credit for Pac if he fights him above 135. That would be 3 tune-ups in a row.

Gangsters are always about the bottom line~, I consider JMM a great fighter and he is still performing well (even in the Floyd fight with 0 advantages he didn't show poorly).

I wouldn't consider it a tune up but unfinished business with a great smaller fighter, atleast it would be a vastly different looking contest than what Manny has been doing, I like to see veriety.

[LoadedWraps]

Mosely is getting old, I don't think Floyd faced a ripe Mosely.
Williams is the only opponent Floyd could face other than Pac that would even affect his legacy imo.
I place Pac above Floyd, although Floyd is more seasoned and one must respect the undefeated, Pac openly challenges all, A true champion will fight anyone.

[sigrab jr]

Mosely is getting old, I don't think Floyd faced a ripe Mosely.
Williams is the only opponent Floyd could face other than Pac that would even affect his legacy imo.
I place Pac above Floyd, although Floyd is more seasoned and one must respect the undefeated, Pac openly challenges all, A true champion will fight anyone.

As long as it's catchweight.

[Shabba Rank$]

If the JMM fight is not at 135 I will not give Pacquiao any respect or credit for beating JMM.

135 or no fight is my opinion.

[Uturn]

If Martinez pulls through Saturday, then Martinez is a legit opponent. The only thing is Martinez is a dangerous and a LIVE opponent, it's high RISK & high REWARD.

[The Gambler1981]

Why would Manny go to 140 for JMM be real, there is ZERO reason for him to do that.

You telling me he was willing to fight Floyd at 147 but if not offered good money he wouldn;t do the same for Manny come on now he wants to fight Manny he jsut wants to get paid for doing such.

Beside it is not like JMM made a mint against Floyd it would be a good time for an opponent of Manny to make more than they did against Floyd and it should generate more buys.

[AKATheMack]

Wow.

Just wow.

I'm guessing you're being sarcastic, bud.

The sarcasm was shown by calling Hatton a good fighter while referring to Margarito as a bum.

[RubenSonny]

i think Pac is greater by a solid margin. I think only Roy Jones is the only active fighter that has a claim to be greater than Pac. But, I would personally put Pac slightly ahead of Roy.

But, if Floyd beats the winner of Williams-Martinez at any weight, he will be on the Roy/Pac level of greatness. Possibly surpassing them depending on how he wins.

You think a draw with marquez and a loss to morales, then pacs wins over 3k, velasquez, morales twice, larios, solis, barrera, marquez, diaz, dlh, hatton, cotto, clottey and margarito is so much greater than castillo twice, sosa, n'dou, corley, bruselles, gatti, mitchell, judah, baldomir, dlh, hatton, marquez, mosley. I obviosly trust you to put the wins into context, I bring this up because I recall you saying that pac reached hall of fame status by beating barrera and floyd through his work at 130, just wanna hear your opinion on things because imo there resumes are very similar, Im not going to rank them till they are finished but if I had to rank them now I might rank pac a little greater but theres really in it I couldn't put him ahead by a solid margin.

[sigrab jr]

If the JMM fight is not at 135 I will not give Pacquiao any respect or credit for beating JMM.

135 or no fight is my opinion.

I never mention Marquez as a win for Mayweather, period. I'll treat Pacquiao the same. That win will do nothing at 140+above.