What style beats Mayweather Jr?

[letsgobrady]

floyds a pure boxer and thats the worst style to fight it gives everyone problems even other pure boxers

[MindBat]

i always say floyd best attribute is his ability to adapt mid round. ive seen him make small adjustments and traps back to back in rounds against guys. people think hes not being agressive or hes running or whatever. but hes thinking hes setting guys up hes breaking them down. casual fans dont see it they jsut want to see 2 guys stand there and punch eachother heads off. but there are more aspects to the game than that.

manny is a punching machine but thats it. no defense and no thought to it jsut punches and if its not there he punches more to find it. and that will be his downfall against floyd.

to beat floyd you need to be a smart fighter and determined fighter you need good timing and you need to be able to adjust when floyd adjust. and you need to hope he slips a little. you have to make less mistakes than he makes and make him pay

That's pretty much it. Whoever gets in there against him has to be ready for constant adjustments cause you're going to get a little bit if everything coming at you.

[Pullcounter]

There is a style that makes every fighter fold no matter how good you are. We've already seen the style that Pacquiao finds hard to beat - Counter puncher, with quick hands (Marquez).

However, what is the style to beat Mayweather?

wifebeater has 3 styles, each really based on wifebeater's proximity to his opponents and in which wifebeater has shown he can do all three in 1 fight.

1) pot-shotter style (as seen in the hatton, baldomir and JMM fights)
2) pressure style (as seen against mitchell and gatti)
3) rough-house-in-fighter style (as seen against mosley)

I. How to beat wifebeater's pot-shotter style:

This is wifebeater's default style.

1. volume punching (hit him where ever you can... arms, shoulders, etc...)
2. don't wait on wifebeater (cause he's fast)... he'll hit you at will with the leaping left hook or the lead right hand.
3. jab your way in (double-triple up the jab)... don't just wade in like hatton, you will get hit with the counter-hook
4. bodyshots (make that runner slow down)
5. head movement... you need to avoid that pull-counter

basically you have to become a great pressure fighter.

example: JLC arguably beat wifebeater in their first fight

II. How to beat wifebeater's pressure style:

this is wifebeater's worst style but it's still pretty good. because he doesn't pressure you with punches, but he pressures you by staying within punch range and using his speed, it's not nearly as effective as his other styles. also, wifebeater is really flatfooted when he fights this style, because he's sitting down on his punches.

1. jab to the body, then go up top (as seen by mosley in round 2)
2. counter the jab to the body with a big shot(as seen by Judah who made wifebeater's glove touch the ground)
3. give wifebeater some angles. don't just stand there in front of him (see gatti fight as to what not to do)
4. head movement is never a bad idea
5. try to set traps to catch him coming in

basically you have to become a great counterpuncher.

How to beat wifebeater's rough-house-in-fighter style:

Eventually wifebeater finds himself inside, but he's no novice when it comes to in-fighting. we don't think of him as a rough-house kinda fighter beause he's in his default pot-shotter mode so much.

1. protect yourself at all times, especially when you are backing out from wifebeater. wifebeater loves to catch you while you are backing out or breaking (see mosley/wifebeater). if you know wifebeater will punch on the break, then anticipate it and wait for countering opportunities
2. if you're feeling uncomfortable in-fighting with wifebeater, then exit to the side, not by taking a step back where wifebeater can catch you
3. circle away from the right hand when wifebeater elbows you to the face or throat. if wifebeater is using his left elbow/forearm to create distance, he can't hook you with it. so push his elbow aside and step to your right away from his right hand. then unload with left hooks.
4. if wifebeater has you clinched, keep punching with your free hand
5. back up wifebeater in the clinch, push that f@ggit. if you are pushing wifebeater backwards, he won't be able to get leverage on his punches

basically, you have to be able to fight with wifebeater on the inside.

So, to beat wifebeater you have to one of 2 things:

1) be able to counter all of wifebeater's styles
2) be able to maintain the appropriate distance at all or most of the time and implement the right style to beat wifebeater's style in that distance.

[Pullcounter]

floyds a pure boxer and thats the worst style to fight it gives everyone problems even other pure boxers

pure boxer vs pure boxer = a close fight.

to beat a boxer you need to swarm him w/ punches.

pressure fighter beats boxer.

[CarlosG815]

pure boxer vs pure boxer = a close fight.

to beat a boxer you need to swarm him w/ punches.

pressure fighter beats boxer.

Precisely...

[letsgobrady]

pure boxer vs pure boxer = a close fight.

to beat a boxer you need to swarm him w/ punches.

pressure fighter beats boxer.

pressure fighter vs mayweather = close fight
pressure fighter only beats boxer if the boxer is not mentally tough if not no one beats a boxer

[CarlosG815]

pressure fighter vs mayweather = close fight
pressure fighter only beats boxer if the boxer is not mentally tough if not no one beats a boxer

I agree with this also. You have to be a VERY good swarming offensive fighter to beat a pure boxer, especially FLOYD.

[KnockUTheFukOut]

Paul does struggle with people on the move, however he still manages to grind out a close fight, this is something I've noticed in most of his fights. The only real reason I see Paul having a chance is his ability to keep going, and to keep going for 12 rounds, plus he doesn't get discouraged.

I don't think anyone with raw 'Power' is going to get to Mayweather. The way to beat him maybe to 'out think' him, or stick to a gameplan for 12 rounds. To many guys have thrown their gameplans out the window to Mayweather, they get discouraged to easily, that plays right into his hands.

I don't disagree one bit, Williams can also make adjustments during a fight as well and he can be unpredictable, those are two things you REALLY need against Mayweather because a one-dimensional fighter will NEVER have a chance against someone like Mayweather unless he just gets lucky and land something big and KO him, because once he makes that adjustment and figure you out, it will be a boxing clinic for the rest of that fight

looking forward to see what Williams do against Martinez on Saturday though, people are busy talking about how Martinez one that first fight and they are over looking the fact that late in that fight you can clearly see that Williams figured him out especially Rounds 10-12 and he started to get to Martinez a lot more

[Pullcounter]

pressure fighter vs mayweather = close fight

we are talking about which styles beats which styles right? we aren't talking about how certain styles would do against wifebeater.

pressure fighter only beats boxer if the boxer is not mentally tough if not no one beats a boxer

doesn't matter if boxer is mentally tough or not. the boxer style is made for the pressure fighter.

the boxer style is based on average punch output and using his legs to stay out of harm's way.

the pressure fighter's style is based on high punch output, cutting off the ring.

all things being equal (including mental toughness) pressure fighter beats boxer.

[Pullcounter]

I don't disagree one bit, Williams can also make adjustments during a fight as well

no he can't. pwill only knows how to fight effectively in one way: volume punching.

and he can be unpredictable,

nope. he is a volume puncher.

those are two things you REALLY need against Mayweather because a one-dimensional fighter will NEVER have a chance against someone like Mayweather unless he just gets lucky and land something big and KO him, because once he makes that adjustment and figure you out, it will be a boxing clinic for the rest of that fight

pwill can beat wifebeater with his volume punching. if he uses it, he's got the height and reach to maintain the fight at long distance where wifebeater cannot compete with him.

looking forward to see what Williams do against Martinez on Saturday though, people are busy talking about how Martinez one that first fight and they are over looking the fact that late in that fight you can clearly see that Williams figured him out especially Rounds 10-12 and he started to get to Martinez a lot more

pwill didn't "figure" s-mart out. if anything s-mart gased and pwill didn't.