Last 3 Fights Total Punch % Landed On Mayweather & Pacquiao

[El Jesus]

margarito is a bigger version of JLC. not saying Marg would beat wifebeater, but he'd give wifebeater a tougher fight than JLC.

Yea right. JLC was a monster on the inside, has better punching technique and much better movement on the inside. He had good footwork and placed punches very very well. JLC knew how to cut off the ring effectively and was quicker as well.

Come on man. Really? JLC is arguably top 10 at lightweight with his run. And didint have to get caught cheating to get there

[El Jesus]

I don't think throwing excess punches is the way to beat Floyd, I think JLCs method gets you a lot closer to the end goal.

which as everyone keeps ignoring me as i say it, pacquiao is not capable of that kind of fight. Pacquiao needs midrange space to get off, he cant just be on the inside, effectively cutting off the ring and fighting in a phonebooth, pacquiao doesnt do that. His "movement" has largely been effective against fighters not quick enough to exploit his lack of balance and his wide open combinations.

JLC fought on the inside effectively trapping floyd into a real fight, floyd still did his thing, but if floyd went shoulder to shoulder with pacquiao and made it dirty with forearms and elbows and inside body punching, pacquiao would be in big big trouble, but again, nobody seems to want to awknowledge this.

[BetterCallSaul]

5 punches landed out of ten looks better as a percentage than 300 out of 1000, but any person with half a brain cell will realise which is the more impressive statistic. Mayweather is a negative, defensive fighter, and doesn't throw many punches, while Pacquiao is an all out aggressive skilled brawler who is relentless with his attack. The fact is, Manny is the cleaner, harder, and more effective puncher. Ask any boxer who they would be rather hit by, Mayweather or Pacquiao, and I bet you 10 times out of 10 they will answer Mayweather.

[jrosales13]

the difference is, both of those guys can get it on inside a phone booth, pacquiao cant do that and would likely get massacred if you took away his ability at midrange. on the inside mayweather doesnt need space to get off.

The problem really has been with the matchups, pacquiao has been in with guys who either cant match him with handspeed, cant match him with footwork or are simply "bigger than him" with no intangibles in the ring to take him on, which is why im not so quick to give him this massive respect that everyone is giving him.

Notice how you mentioned floyd against volume punchers, we havent seen pacquiao in there with someone who can match him in handspeed and footwork, we saw it with mayweather, the basis to judge mayweather against those styles...there is at least something to go on, with pacquiao they match him up against styles they know wont pose an issue,

Pacquiao needs to be at midrange to be effective, mayweather could stay on the outside or make it ugly on the inside, Pacquiao cant train for that, no matter how good roach is.

My whole thing is not Pac vs Floyd really... If it makes you and Gambler feel better Floyd beats Pac senseless.

My comment was based to a poster that said Floyd reduces his opponent output drastically and thus being inevitable that he would reduce Pac output drastically.

What my point is that there is no real accurate that Floyd reduces the output of volume punchers. He hasn't really done it ever. So why say it is inevitable that he would drastically reduces Pac or any volume puncher in general like P-Will output? Again not saying Floyd will lose.

Pac can throw a 100 punches a round and get his ass beat like Jesus Chavez did. Because, Chavez was capable of keeping his high output. And, got a beat down in the process.

My whole argument is that Floyd reduces the output of counterpunchers, or brawlers, or plotters but not really volume punchers. And, I have still yet seen somebody show me that he has. It doesn't even Pac, again let it be P-Will. I am talking about volume punchers.

[El Jesus]

My whole thing is not Pac vs Floyd really... If it makes you and Gambler feel better Floyd beats Pac senseless.

My comment was based to a poster that said Floyd reduces his opponent output drastically and thus being inevitable that he would reduce Pac output drastically.

What my point is that there is no real accurate that Floyd reduces the output of volume punchers. He hasn't really done it ever. So why say it is inevitable that he would drastically reduces Pac or any volume puncher in general like P-Will output? Again not saying Floyd will lose.

Pac can throw a 100 punches a round and get his ass beat like Jesus Chavez did. Because, Chavez was capable of keeping his high output. And, got a beat down in the process.

My whole argument is that Floyd reduces the output of counterpunchers, or brawlers, or plotters but not really volume punchers. And, I have still yet seen somebody show me that he has. It doesn't even Pac, again let it be P-Will. I am talking about volume punchers.

I understand what you are saying.

[IronDanHamza]

My whole thing is not Pac vs Floyd really... If it makes you and Gambler feel better Floyd beats Pac senseless.

My comment was based to a poster that said Floyd reduces his opponent output drastically and thus being inevitable that he would reduce Pac output drastically.

What my point is that there is no real accurate that Floyd reduces the output of volume punchers. He hasn't really done it ever. So why say it is inevitable that he would drastically reduces Pac or any volume puncher in general like P-Will output? Again not saying Floyd will lose.

Pac can throw a 100 punches a round and get his ass beat like Jesus Chavez did. Because, Chavez was capable of keeping his high output. And, got a beat down in the process.

My whole argument is that Floyd reduces the output of counterpunchers, or brawlers, or plotters but not really volume punchers. And, I have still yet seen somebody show me that he has. It doesn't even Pac, again let it be P-Will. I am talking about volume punchers.

I didn't say Floyd reduces all his opponents output drastically, i said in comparison to Manny's last few fights, (especially Clottey), he will reduce his output, in 'comparison'. What Floyd will do is reduce his output, in my opinion, even if its only to an extent, regardless to if hes a volume puncher, he will reduce his output, to me thats inevitable, Pacqiauo is not going to throw 100 punches a round against a counterpuncher the calibur of Floyd Mayweather. Basing off the Marquez fights, anyway.

But saying theres no real evidence that he drastically reduces volume punchers output is a fair analysis.

Would you say its inevitable that he will reduce his output to an extent fair?

[e-low]

lol your using math to show people the effectiveness of mayweather, but u fail to show the sheer volume pacquiao and maywheather throw.

the Delahoya fight for example:

if pacquaio throws 1000 punches a fight, his 38% of 1000 punches will = 380 punches landed
where as if mayweather throws 500 punches a fight, his 43% of 500 punches will = 172 punches landed.
(lets face it, Mayweather is not a volume puncher)

Obviously the math you provide us with in favor for Mayweather is flawed, you fail to show the other aspect of it.

Now who do you think will win the fight? the one who landed 380 punches or 172 punches? The one who landed 38%, or the one who landed 43%? do you see where im getting at?

[The Gambler1981]

which as everyone keeps ignoring me as i say it, pacquiao is not capable of that kind of fight. Pacquiao needs midrange space to get off, he cant just be on the inside, effectively cutting off the ring and fighting in a phonebooth, pacquiao doesnt do that. His "movement" has largely been effective against fighters not quick enough to exploit his lack of balance and his wide open combinations.

JLC fought on the inside effectively trapping floyd into a real fight, floyd still did his thing, but if floyd went shoulder to shoulder with pacquiao and made it dirty with forearms and elbows and inside body punching, pacquiao would be in big big trouble, but again, nobody seems to want to awknowledge this.

I have said the same thing about range and that is why I feel Manny can't win because he needs to be at his range to be unstoppable. At every other range Floyd has an advantage though and to make matters worse for Manny Floyd is excellent at not letting guys get in their range.

Whatever though I done explaining that to people though, I intend to profit from my knowledge so I am glad people don't get it.

[1 HitterQuitter]

This to me is like when people say pac has more kos its their fight style

[badboypeenoy]

Assuming Floyd is better offensively and defensively. He's capable of hitting Pacquaio at will, while reducing Pacquiao's punch output and connect to half, and add to this the fact that Floyd enjoys a few inches advantage in reach and height, and is physically as strong if not stronger than Pacquiao...then what is the fuccking assshole Mayweather waiting for? Fight the man and be the man!