Last 3 Fights Total Punch % Landed On Mayweather & Pacquiao

[The Gambler1981]

My whole thing is not Pac vs Floyd really... If it makes you and Gambler feel better Floyd beats Pac senseless.

My comment was based to a poster that said Floyd reduces his opponent output drastically and thus being inevitable that he would reduce Pac output drastically.

What my point is that there is no real accurate that Floyd reduces the output of volume punchers. He hasn't really done it ever. So why say it is inevitable that he would drastically reduces Pac or any volume puncher in general like P-Will output? Again not saying Floyd will lose.

Pac can throw a 100 punches a round and get his ass beat like Jesus Chavez did. Because, Chavez was capable of keeping his high output. And, got a beat down in the process.

My whole argument is that Floyd reduces the output of counterpunchers, or brawlers, or plotters but not really volume punchers. And, I have still yet seen somebody show me that he has. It doesn't even Pac, again let it be P-Will. I am talking about volume punchers.

If Manny is trying to win his output will go down, just because to me you have to be smart against Floyd. IF Manny's is being smart he can't be balls the the walls aggressive so against guys that allow him to be like that he should always throw more.

He can go in there and throw a lot of shots but over the course I think his total will trend downwards. The human body can only do so much and if a volume guy is hitting nothing but air the can deflate rapidly because they will get frusterated and become weaker mentally.

JMM against Diaz is the example of a boxer against a volume puncher. The boxer should generally weaken the volume guy over the course of the fight thus lowering the overall output.

[Walt Liquor]

I was re-watching a few rounds of pac/marg last night and I noticed that after the nasty body shots in the 6th, Pac blocked almost every single left hook with his elbow. The dude can be very defensive when he chooses to, however, his activity leaves him open to get hit.

this is true. But don't tell anyone. He obviously had no defense and can only fight at mid range. He's very limited. He's never fought a boxer. Just hard charging face first mexicans who lack skills.


I also like that the only way to beat Floyd is to follow the castillo blueprint.

[The Gambler1981]

this is true. But don't tell anyone. He obviously had no defense and can only fight at mid range. He's very limited. He's never fought a boxer. Just hard charging face first mexicans who lack skills.


I also like that the only way to beat Floyd is to follow the castillo blueprint.

I would say the best way to beat Floyd is be better than him at what he does~

[Uturn]

Assuming Floyd is better offensively and defensively. He's capable of hitting Pacquaio at will, while reducing Pacquiao's punch output and connect to half, and add to this the fact that Floyd enjoys a few inches advantage in reach and height, and is physically as strong if not stronger than Pacquiao...then what is the fuccking assshole Mayweather waiting for? Fight the man and be the man!

People come up with these assumptions all they want, it doesn't really mean much. Floyd is a beaten man in his head, this will play a major factor in the fight.

[Walt Liquor]

I would say there's more than one way to beat Floyd. And speed is one of them. You must be able to finish his after hurting him.

Manny can do it a couple of ways. One way is early in the fight. (his best chance IMO)

The other is to vary his offense and try for the decision. He can't attack floyd the same way all fight, like jlc did. PAC has grown into a much more versatile and smarter fighter over the last 5 years.

Saying Floyd has already faced the likes of manny is inaccurate, as some have mentioned in thus thread. Jlc works his way inside completely differently.

Manny's problem is that Floyd WILL time that ass by the fourth round and start punishing manny if he fights the way he did vs margs. Against cotto, PAC varied his offense a bit more but still not enough IMO to hold Floyd off.

It'd be fascinating to see who's the stronger fighter that night. I think manny's got a better chin, but it makes no difference once Floyd zeros in on you. Floyd would have blasted Shane out no doubt if he tried, or at least margarioed his face up.

Sorry if that post is all over the place, my daughter keeps interrupting me.

[Mickey Gomez]

When you throw 1000 punches a fight you leave yourself open, unlike someone who throws 400 punches.

Non starter of a thread.

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[myCoCainE]

Who cares about stats if your knocking your opponent out. Mayweather could land as high as 100% of his punches vs Pacquiao's 1% but if that single punch lands at the perfect place at the perfect time, it's lights out.

People say, oh it's boxing, anything can happen, then you have this stats like it's already a foregone conclusion.

All Pacquiao's gotta do is throw 100+ punches a round with his in and outs to disrupt Mayweather's rhythm and he could win that fight. If he is able to mark up Mayweather, maybe even the judge can be swayed to give him rounds.

And don't forget Pacquiao is going in this fight as the good guy. Dela Hoya came in the Mayweather fight as the good guy and he got an undeserved split decision. If Pacquiao performs well enough, the judges might give him the win.

[Pacquiao'd]

the ******ity of these *******s. now this guy above is claiming pac has one punch lo power. its going to be so funny to watch these boards after floyd embarasses pac

[Ko King 212]

which as everyone keeps ignoring me as i say it, pacquiao is not capable of that kind of fight. Pacquiao needs midrange space to get off, he cant just be on the inside, effectively cutting off the ring and fighting in a phonebooth, pacquiao doesnt do that. His "movement" has largely been effective against fighters not quick enough to exploit his lack of balance and his wide open combinations.

JLC fought on the inside effectively trapping floyd into a real fight, floyd still did his thing, but if floyd went shoulder to shoulder with pacquiao and made it dirty with forearms and elbows and inside body punching, pacquiao would be in big big trouble, but again, nobody seems to want to awknowledge this.

I agree. Still a close fight. I give floyd the edge.


Smh @ garbage azz marg be anywhere good as jlc.

[check hook]

Being a voulume puncher is the worst thing to be against Floyd, I repeat the WORST.

You may make him fight but that has yet to be a good outcome for anyone Floyd faces.

i know it creates more opportunities for Floyd to counter....but a quick volume puncher is actually the BEST thing to be against him.