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  • Alibata
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    #191
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    *******s agree its sufficiant , but they agree on anything Pac does , the experts say no prior known cutt of or it undermines the entire process .

    If Pac does agree to no cutt of random testing the ball is in Floyds court , if Manny does not agree it means Manny is still ***ing around with a test designed to stop cheating , in that Manny is wrong , this should never have been dragged like this , Manny should have said no problems in March , he brought an avalanche of su****ion upon himself by playing around with PEDS testing , no athlete should try and water down PEDS testing , its against the entire world sporting movement for better testing .
    WRONG..... The world agrees it is sufficient. Hence, the popular opinion that Floyd is ducking Manny. The only su****ion now is why Floyd is ducking Manny. Come on man get with the "hype."
    Last edited by Alibata; 11-13-2010, 06:08 PM.

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    • DARKSEID
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      #192
      If he had access to HGH, he would weigh 150 pounds right now and look like a little mike tyson.

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      • H.E.R.
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        #193
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        Sorry I don't trust any athletes when it comes to PED, and if you refuse any sort of testing that is a huge red flag.

        I fail to see how athletes in this day and age when PED are all over sport deserve that kind of trust.
        Then you probably aren't a fan of too many sports, are you? Most professional sports leagues don't use/have opposed blood testing.

        Why watch boxing at all when normal protocols don't call for it? Hell, they didn't test back then and we don't know for sure what was available. Are you questioning them also?

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        • H.E.R.
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          #194
          Originally posted by Alibata
          WRONG..... The world agrees it is sufficient. Hence, the popular opinion that Floyd is ducking Manny. The only su****ion now is why Floyd is ducking Manny. Come on man get with the "hype."
          Mayweather thought 14 days was sufficient enough. Pacquiao went even further up to 7, but please, let's ignore that fact for Mayweather's fans.

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          • cixthree
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            #195
            Originally posted by Alibata
            WRONG..... The world agrees it is sufficient. Hence, the popular opinion that Floyd is ducking Manny.
            But that opinion is only based off dislike. Though it may be the popular opinion, it's not correct.

            It's like saying........
            5 guys in a group, one guy shoots the guy next to him. The guy he shot was an azz, so they all decide not to tell. Popular, but not rite

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            • cixthree
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              #196
              Originally posted by H.E.R.
              Mayweather thought 14 days was sufficient enough. Pacquiao went even further up to 7, but please, let's ignore that fact for Mayweather's fans.
              Manny went from 30 to 24 to 7? Why did'nt he just take the 14?

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              • H.E.R.
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                #197
                Originally posted by cixthree
                Manny went from 30 to 24 to 7? Why did'nt he just take the 14?
                Mayweather went from 0 to 14 to 0. Why didn't Mayweather take Pacquiao's 7? Why did Mayweather deny negotiations altogether? Hell, why didn't Mayweather take the original 14?

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                • Alibata
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by cixthree
                  But that opinion is only based off dislike. Though it may be the popular opinion, it's not correct.

                  It's like saying........
                  5 guys in a group, one guy shoots the guy next to him. The guy he shot was an azz, so they all decide not to tell. Popular, but not rite
                  Nah, it is not really dislike because Manny was getting the bad end of popular opinion when he turned down the first negotiations. Media and fans were not on Manny's side. Now when Manny agreed to 14 (Floyd's original compromise) then fans started to side with Manny. More so now when Manny accepted 7 (I still think it is 0 but lets use 7). There is no reason no to accept because 7 is more then enough to prove a fighter is clean. 7 days is when a fighter tapers down and will not benefit and would be ****** to use peds specially if they are testing again right after the fight. So no it is not public dislike but rather public common sense.

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                  • Vasyl’s dad
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    You would get the exact same reaction taht Manny is getting, in this day and age in athletics (of any kind) a stance such is this makes one look terrible.

                    I still refuse to believe Manny is that mentally weak that such a small thing could effect him on such a level.

                    If I think someone is cheating and they challenge me to a fight I call them on their cheating and they refuse to get tested what am I suppose to think. That would certainly not amke me want to fight them, infact it would make me want to see them tested no matter what or there would never be a fight.
                    But thats not what happened with Manny and Floyd though.

                    Floyd basically said, "all he has to do is call me out. Hes a one dimensional and ordinary. Hes easy work and easy money".

                    Manny basically said, "ok, I want to fight Floyd".

                    "I think hes on PEDs and he needs to take these tests. Nobody goes from ordinary to extraordinary like that. Hes on something. I need to have a level playing field and we need to clean up this sport."



                    Funny how Floyds entire stance changed one he realized Pac was ready and willing to throw down.

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                    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      You can only put on so much muscle before it starts to really effect your movement.


                      The ability to move freely is more important than big muscles, also that stuff doesn't only help with getting big it helps with endurence. It all depends on how it is used with what work outs.
                      Thank you.................

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