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  • The Noose
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    #61
    1. His targets have got bigger.

    2. He has greatly improved his right hand = he is now a 2 fisted puncher = he throws more right hands.

    3. He counter punches more.

    Just my theory.

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    • Chopper417
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      #62
      Originally posted by madsweeney
      JMM and Mayweather are still fighting and they're even older than Pac (just like Morales and Barrera)

      and have their punch outputs increased significantly since moving in weight?

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      • eklok
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        #63
        Originally posted by madsweeney
        Statistics can be tweaked to fit your agenda, that's why blanket stats like this are bs. Yes he's throwing alot more than the average welterweight...in one of his fights. You want to normalize, you separate the extremes. Common sense would be too look at the fights individually, not lump them up into groups. Pac's had the least fights at 140-147, one fight skews the weight class averages more than the others.

        This is bull****. Did he maintain his rate as he moved up, yes. Did he drastically increase that rate? No, with one exception, and exception that was made for strategy not just because he could.


        *****'s cant follow logic , its their nature to be idiots

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        • BoxingGenius27
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          #64
          Originally posted by madsweeney
          He has lost speed, watch him @ 126 and at 147 and you'll see the difference. He's 32, not 40 and very active and healthy and didn't look nearly as good in his last two fights as he did two years ago.
          I have watched him. That's just it. Pac of 2011 is older, bigger, stronger and faster than Pac of 2005. Youtube it.

          I've seen the man throw about 10 puches in less than a second against Cotto. If given the chance he would've done the same thing to Mosley. But Mosley got a taste of that roid rage and got the hell outta dodge!
          Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 07-14-2011, 03:14 PM.

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          • Verstyle
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            #65
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            simple explanation: pac was a one handed fighter in the lighter weights. now he's using both hands.
            I agree.....

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            • BoxingGenius27
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              #66
              Originally posted by VERSATILE2K10
              I agree.....
              We know why/how he has the energy to "use both hands".

              It's from eating all those EPO sandwich's

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              • madsweeney
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                #67
                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                I have watched him. That's just it. Pac of 2011 is older, bigger, stronger and faster than Pac of 2005. Youtube it.

                I've seen the man throw about 10 puches in less than a second against Cotto. If given the chance he would've done the same thing to Mosley. But Mosley got a taste of that roid rage and got the hell out of dodge!
                I very much disagree about the speed, its pretty obvious he's slower now.

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                • Bermuda
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  nobody even talked about PEDs until wifebeater sr (is he dead yet?) opened his mouth. the PEDs is a red herrring used by wifebeater sr so his son could duck pac.

                  the increase in punch output can be attributed to

                  -better nutrition and conditioning by ariza
                  -becoming a 2 handed fighter
                  -not getting as much return fire from larger slower opponents
                  unfortunately, there are some people out there who'd rather believe conspiracy theories than accept the points you've outlined (all of which are true).

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                    unfortunately, there are some people out there who'd rather believe conspiracy theories than accept the points you've outlined (all of which are true).
                    How does one explain getting faster while getting heavier and older?

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                    • BoxingGenius27
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by eklok
                      *****'s cant follow logic , its their nature to be idiots
                      If Pac, the man himself, actually admitted to PED use, you still wouldn't believe it.

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