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  • jjbj2
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    #71
    Joshua Clottey is bound to the Hall of Fame? Who knew?

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    • eklok
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      #72
      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
      If Pac, the man himself, actually admitted to PED use, you still wouldn't believe it.
      , link or gtfo!!!!

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      • BoxingGenius27
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        #73
        Originally posted by eklok
        , link or gtfo!!!!

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        • eklok
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          #74
          Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
          nice way to own yourself

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          • BoxingGenius27
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            #75
            Originally posted by eklok
            nice way to own yourself
            Ha! The funny thing is you actually clicked on the link. Don't lie

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            • Bermuda
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              #76
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              How does one explain getting faster while getting heavier and older?
              pac has always been fast, he hasn't gotten any faster. he's just been successful at maintaining his speed while moving up in weight.

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              • Bacatit
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                #77
                Originally posted by check hook
                There is ofcourse that other simple explanation that exists. The one where performance enhancers "enhance" performance
                Bwaaaahahahahaha!!!!

                Really Doe

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                • Bacatit
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by hanzoh74
                  really?? just like ur a closet **** and u want Katsidis d1ck in ur a$$ so bad
                  All you guys do is make gay jokes with all that Soy in your diet smdh !!!

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                  • Brother Jay
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                    #79
                    It ain't hard to tell ...

                    CompuBox Stats: Pacquiao Output Grew, as He Moved Up

                    What some don't realize is that what PEDs do is they allow one to train for much longer than normal. What they does for performance is it allows one to increase maintain speed despite putting on several pounds of muscle mass. It increases endurance so that the athlete will be able to perform longer at optimal levels despite the increase of muscle mass weight.

                    Longer and more intense training sessions also allow an athlete to produce less and better manage lactic acids ... which are the cause of fatigue. If an athlete produces less lactic acid and is stronger, has maintained the same speed from when he was 20lbs lighter and can maintain an inhuman workrate because he doesn't get fatigued, then style will have little to do with his success.

                    An athlete with those advantages can simply overwhelm opponents who will not have openings that they usually wait for to counter. Without countering opportunities, opponents will become desperate and any game plan that involved pacing themselves goes out the door because now they are operating under an extreme sense of urgency.

                    At this point after the PED boxer has overwhelmed his opponents with close to 100 punches per round, the opponent is forced to take unwise risks because everything that they used in the past to be successful isn't working. All of a sudden there is no safety behind the jab. All of a sudden you don't have opportunities to land body blows that would usually slow down your opponent.

                    And now, even though you are landing some sharp punches, you can't seem to follow up because the PED boxer isn't slowing down like every other opponent you've faced has before. He's bouncing around and moving ... breathing like its the 2 round ... but its the 10th.

                    At the end of the fight, you don't feel like he hurt you any worse than you've been hurt before, but you feel dejected and overwhelmed. You saw everything he threw coming but because he was simply relentless and never tired you had no chance to get your offense off.

                    That's how all of Manny's fights have gone since fighting Marquez the last time. He's mysteriously increased his stamina to inhuman levels and his punch output has dramatically risen to a level that he's NEVER displayed before.

                    Manny isn't a better boxer. This ridiculous notion that he's now a two handed boxer is laughable as Manny still relies on a simple 1-2 left hand down the middle. Only now he might try to end the combo with a left hook. Manny still has pitiful head movement and pathetic footwork. But who needs those things when you're throwing 100 punches per round? Who needs defense when you never get tired and never stop bouncing and darting around the ring?

                    The above paragraphs describe what PEDs can do for a boxer. In the same sense, they would give an edge to Lance Armstrong or an athlete competing in the Tour de France. They would increase endurance for a cyclist to the point where he would be able to beat his best time. He would be able to maintain a RPM workrate that no non-PED cyclist could maintain.

                    The advantages are significant. And in boxing, those advantages would only be apparent if a boxer were foolish enough to significantly increase his punch output ... which is the only measure that can be statistically recorded.

                    In the case of Manny Pacquiao, his punch output statistically rose with added muscle mass and he was able to maintain his speed from SFW, which goes against the science of boxing.

                    Now we have two possible explanations here.

                    1) Manny Pacquiao is using PEDs to train longer to increase his endurance, stamina and maintain his speed despite his muscle mass gain in recent years.

                    -or-

                    2) Manny Pacquiao is a freak of nature and has evolved to a point where he is capable of doing what 99.9% of the world's population is incapable of doing WITHOUT PEDs.

                    Which is the more likely scenario?

                    Keep in mind that nothing is impossible however unlikely and improbable. No one would have predicted that Usain Bolt would have appeared and shattered a record that the world thought would only be beaten by milliseconds by an athlete performing at optimal levels and under extreme duress. Except, Bolt casually strolled across the finish line having left the competition far behind ... at one point he even slowed down & looked behind him ... sacrificing precious seconds that could have even further shattered the record.

                    While that's all fine and dandy, Bolt's win can be explained. Bolt is a tall, lanky man whose stride is probably double that of anyone less than 6' tall. If he optimized his stride, perfected his set position technique and had a flawless start off the blocks he could, with his height and gait, surpass all known records. Its not like Bolt ran a 3 minute mile.

                    Manny Pacquiao however has no such physical gifts. There is nothing about his physical makeup that would explain his increase in stamina & endurance. In fact, Manny Pacquiao's physical stature makes it harder to believe his success is not due to PEDs because in a sport like boxing, where inches are important and a jab is a primary weapon, his arms are significantly shorter than his WW & jrMW competition.

                    And that's why no eyes were wide open and jaws agape when Bolt won, but there were fingers immediately pointing when Ben Johnson's 5'11 asss beat Carl Lewis.

                    The juice, my friends, is loose.

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                    • puga
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      simple explanation: pac was a one handed fighter in the lighter weights. now he's using both hands.
                      simple explanation!.....

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