David Haye talks about "slave contracts" to cover up his cowardice!

[WladIsTheChamp]

Lol, he said that?

Holyfield must be the GOAT for defeating Valuev at 47 then

That lying vagina coward did say that. I am guessing then Chagaev is now elevated to HOF status and Wlad is an automatic GOAT because of this.

[Pirao]

That lying vagina coward did say that. I am guessing then Chagaev is now elevated to HOF status and Wlad is an automatic GOAT because of this.

Haye would never fight Chagaev, because he's a good fighter who is not shot. Gaye is already trying to get out of his mandatory fight against Chagaev

[P4P Opinion]

So let me get this straight, you were trying to get someone for their "propoganda", which actually turned out to be the truth and you still don't feel ******?

*sigh*

You don't seem to be following me at all.

Here is the original post by Tunney:

The contract David Haye signed in the spring of 2009 was the standard for a voluntary opponent, with a rematch for the Klitschkos and an option for K-2 Promotions. It was similar to the contract Derek Chisora has signed.

However, the contract he ignored in May/June of THIS YEAR year was for a 50/50 share of all revenue and NO REMATCH CLAUSES OR OPTIONS. He turned it down and demanded ALL of the UK PPV revenue, which would mean he would have more than 50% of the total revenue.

Yet this liar David Haye keeps going on about "slave contracts", although There were no rematch clauses or options in the contract Wlad offered this year.

I think he's saying that to cover up his COWARDICE.

With the exception of the final line, Tunney states with authority that what he says is factual, as opposed to news stories and half-quotes strung together to create a vague impression of fight negotiations, which is what they are. I'm not necessarily saying he's wrong, I'm saying that I don't like him (and many other boxing fans) representing unsubstantiated reports as fact.

I'm leaving this here, so have the final word if you like. I don't feel this is going anywhere productive.

[ellwise69]

I am not slating him, I am having fun mate. Without a little prodding of the opposition, you'll just have everyone agree on here. I am not getting worked up either, I actually find the whole thing very amusing. The whole Haye calling out the Kltischkos has turned into one big comedy over the last 2 years. The funniest thing that anyone impartial can see what's going on and you Haye fans can't. Even if you take direct quotes from Haye himself from different points in time, he contradicts himself all the time.

Fake back injury, "oh I need 3 weeks, oh no 5 weeks, well maybe 6 weeks", "I want to fight both brothers, oh wait that's a "slave contract", "I'll take 50/50, oh wait now I want the lion's share", "The reason why I waited to respond to Wlad's call out for many months (only after BOTH Klitschkos were signed to fight Peter and Briggs) was because my mother always told me that if you don't have anything good to say then don't say anything at all (I guess she didn't tell him about posing with cut-off heads then)", "Fraudley is a joke, I will never fight him and I will be branded a coward if I do, oh wait, I have been getting e-mails from the fans asking for this fight"

Are you all that thick or that blinded not to see through this stuff?

His ducking is so blatant and you all fail to see it, that's what is so hilarious.

So your impartial are you, GTFO!

It's not that I can't see what your saying mate.

It's that I don't care.

Haye fights a Klitschko next year <------ My Opinion, which means sweet FA, just like yours.

We'll just have to see won't we.

[WladIsTheChamp]

*sigh*

You don't seem to be following me at all.

Here is the original post by Tunney:



With the exception of the final line, Tunney states with authority that what he says is factual, as opposed to news stories and half-quotes strung together to create a vague impression of fight negotiations, which is what they are. I'm not necessarily saying he's wrong, I'm saying that I don't like him (and many other boxing fans) representing unsubstantiated reports as fact.

I'm leaving this here, so have the final word if you like. I don't feel this is going anywhere productive.

LOL you crack me up
No trust me I followed you, this is not a law review article, it's boxingscene post, Tunney didn't have to cite and footnote all his sources. Bottom line, you called him out on something and he used a video of your hero to prove your wrong, that was brilliant, then a reasonable Haye fan brought that your attention and owned you. Don't try backtrack now, you got owned, plain and simple. 50/50 split down the middle, oh and don't expect a citation and a bibliography from my posts either.

[WladIsTheChamp]

So your impartial are you, GTFO!

It's not that I can't see what your saying mate.

It's that I don't care.

Haye fights a Klitschko next year <------ My Opinion, which means sweet FA, just like yours.

We'll just have to see won't we.

I never said I was impartial, I am clearly a Klitschko fan. But all the "impartials" (what you would classify as non-"klitjockers") are all on board with the whole "David Haye is a vagina" thing. Oh, if I remember correctly you all said the same thing in 2009 and 2010 "he'll fight a Klitschko next year", you all don't learn do you?

[P4P Opinion]

LOL you crack me up
No trust me I followed you, this is not a law review article, it's boxingscene post, Tunney didn't have to cite and footnote all his sources. Bottom line, you called him out on something and he used a video of your hero to prove your wrong, that was brilliant, then a reasonable Haye fan brought that your attention and owned you. Don't try backtrack now, you got owned, plain and simple. 50/50 split down the middle, oh and don't expect a citation and a bibliography from my posts either.

Ok, I lied. Can't let you have the last word on this. I can't have you portray something that isn't true.

In what way am I backtracking? I admit I was wrong and have done in several posts. That was only part of my original post. This is the other part:

No doubt I'll be accused of being a Haye-Nuthugger, but I thought I'd counter the the propaganda that the thread starter likes to pander. We simply don't know what happened in the talks with any certainty and it's foolish to act like we do. I'd also like to add that I'm disgusted in Haye for taking the Harrison fight and I'll be boycotting it, although he remains a favourite of mine purely for his in-ring ability.

The bolded bit is my main point. I hate it when hearsay and half-truths become accepted as general truths, as is always Tunney's aim on whatever issue he takes on.

[The Hammer]

The bolded bit is my main point. I hate it when hearsay and half-truths become accepted as general truths, as is always Tunney's aim on whatever issue he takes on.

That's a lie, that's not my "aim" at all. (can you ever have a discussion without resorting to false accusations and personal attacks?)

In fact, that's what David Haye is trying to do - except it's not hearsay and half-truths - he's trying to have a BLATANT LIE about slave contracts accepted as general truth.

[ellwise69]

I never said I was impartial, I am clearly a Klitschko fan. But all the "impartials" (what you would classify as non-"klitjockers") are all on board with the whole "David Haye is a vagina" thing. Oh, if I remember correctly you all said the same thing in 2009 and 2010 "he'll fight a Klitschko next year", you all don't learn do you?

You assume I'm a massive Haye fan, but where did I ever go on record to say I was?

I'm a fan of boxing bud, I know all this hearsay causes alot of ruckus on the forums, but it's all part of the build up to a big fight.

I can't usually be bothered to get involved with the bickering, but some of the stuff people are posting is ridiculous to say the least.

We'll see then ey.

[guru]

even boxing writers, who are in the know more then us, say haye is all talk no bite and is milking his title b4 he cashes out against one of the klits.

the one thing you cant knock the klits about is ducking anyone. they've pretty much cleared out the division of anyone not afraid to fight them.