Comments Thread For: Steward, Roach Defend Pacquiao's Catch-Weight Demand

[Dave Rado]

people need to read about catchweights and its history in boxing...its being going on for decades and its going on right now...

And it was bullshit every time it happened.

Handicap races have also been going on for decades but they're bullshit, too. Luckily for athletics, handicap races are not accepted by the major athletics events. Shame the same isn't true of the boxing commissions.

[serv]

criticism of catchweight fights are illegitimate due to 24 rehydration policy of today's era:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=419542


there is basically no advantage or disadvantage to either fighter because of the 24 rehydration clause. its basically nothing more than a mental edge. A placebo.


History of Catchweight fight results prove this.

makes sense

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

I take it you have never had to make weight or seen it being made ,, you think Roach takes a few pounds of these F1 athletes for fun lol , they barter back and forth over a pound but it dont mean anything lol ,,, how much did Oscar rehydrate in the 30hrs , I know why he rehydrated only 2 pounds when his body wanted 16 lbs , do you know why ?

Reporter - Do you think the CW advantage you or Margo

Manny - uhmm Me , .

i take it you didnt read the thread & the examples i posted in it. to elite fighters 1 or 2lbs dont really matter. using oscar as an example is just pure ignorance & ******ity. oscar lost because he was old & washed up. the weight just compounded the problem.

read the thread before spouting off your Floids infected virus talking point.

Guns dont kill people. People kill people. Size dont win fights, Fighters win fights.


Again,

24 hour rehydration policy in todays era make catchweight criticism completely illegitimate:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=419542

[BennyST]

I think people need to remember one thing when talking about catch-weights and saying "What's the problem? It's been done before!". It has been done before and each and every time, it has been highly criticised.

Arum bringing up the two Leonard catch-weights is about the ******est thing he could have done. Those fights are still being laughed at, and were hugely criticised at the time. In fact, people were going nuts about those especially the LaLonde fight, which was fought at 168, not 166.

They have always been criticised because there are weight limits already. That's the point of them. Star fighters doing whatever they want is just poor form.

[SP1]

So in regards of the catch weight debate, do we now negate Sugar Ray Leonard's achievements altogether?

The Oscar De La Hoya scenario is completely irrelevant in this case because that man had to drop weight well and beyond his natural weight but still couldn't even land a lick.

This fight definitely favours Margarito because he is more comfortable at the Jr Middleweight limit and Manny has to put on a few pounds and considering he has to stuff himself like crazy to make 144 lol.

Catchweight-fights should not be criticised so heavily because at the end of the day both fighters have to agree with the limit and in this case Margarito should be happy the limit isn't 148 because beggars can't be choosers. Also without catchweights we will not get the opportunity to see fighters of different natural weight limits fighting each other and by allowing fighters to meet at a certain weight gives both parties certain advantages and certainly disadvantages.

[TheRealTruth321]

I take it you have never had to make weight or seen it being made ,, you think Roach takes a few pounds of these F1 athletes for fun lol , they barter back and forth over a pound but it dont mean anything lol ,,, how much did Oscar rehydrate in the 30hrs , I know why he rehydrated only 2 pounds when his body wanted 16 lbs , do you know why ?

Reporter - Do you think the CW advantage you or Margo

Manny - uhmm Me , .

Of course he hasnt had to make weight... you can tell that by his answer... Yo Willie Swindler, do you know how hard it is make weight for pro boxers? Freddie is not silly... Im not slating him tho because it was Margo that signed... I dont think he'll have too much trouble though, hes spent most of his career at WW anyhow. I hope Pac destroys him anyways. War PAC!!!!

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Of course he hasnt had to make weight... you can tell that by his answer... Yo Willie Swindler, do you know how hard it is make weight for pro boxers? Freddie is not silly... Im not slating him tho because it was Margo that signed... I dont think he'll have too much trouble though, hes spent most of his career at WW anyhow. I hope Pac destroys him anyways. War PAC!!!!

read the thread & posts in it:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=419542

boxing nowadays, a lot of it is about making weight. the 24 hr rehydration rule just completely has perverted the boxing weight divisions.


Catchweights were made to prevent cancellations of fights, not because of medical malfeasance.

[Cotto 54/10]

Hopefully the weight will not affect Manny too much.

[commonsense81]

what do you mean cant count the DLH fight if weight doesnt matter why does he need DLH to fight at a weight he hasnt fought in yrs why does he need that extra pound off of cotto because that takes energy away from the fighter and you have a huge mental edge in the fight. And why the hell did roach say yesterday that he was worried that pac big off more than he can chew and he hates catch weights doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out that pac camp is shady. now you are gonna say steward agrees well steward wants his man to get another crack at pac for the money so he is not going to say anything to jepordize that

[Laborer]

The headline is so misleading. Nowhere in the article where Steward defended Pac's catchweight demand. He only said that if the fighters involved signed the deal, he's not going to argue, but it's more credible if the belt is won at the weight limit... What's wrong with this writer? a headache?