Manny is good not great(heres why)

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  • jrosales13
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    #61
    Originally posted by Eaner0919
    it's sustainability

    Baldomir never sustained a great or even good career enough to be considered a true champion of anything

    Barrera OTOH did
    I could agree with that.

    I wish Marg would of gotten a shot earlier. Against Mayorga or Judah when he was the man.

    To me Marg was arguably the best WW in the last WW era. But, again the last WW era wasn't the strongest, not the like the 90's let alone the 80's.

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    • odogg8121
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      #62
      Originally posted by Eaner0919
      did you consider Buster Douglass the best heavyweight in the world ever?

      what about Zsolt Erdei?
      Hell no, but Eaner I wasnt comparing the fighters, I was calling him out on his double standards...


      Barrera>>>> Baldo all day but that wasn't the point of my post.
      Last edited by odogg8121; 10-28-2010, 03:48 PM.

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      • gondixs
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        #63
        #61 Today, 04:44 PM
        jrosales13

        what u gotta say cat caught your tongue...yeah look impressive to ppl who dont hit u bac or is weight drained or assualted common



        like i said manny might have looked good moving up but hasnt fought anyone in there prime since stepping up and everyone is sayin omg he is the big fighter ever since armstrong common get real...he fought diaz the softest champ at the time at 135 why not rematch marquenz since it was sd now u wanna move up then fights oscar at 147 knowing he couldnt make that weight and perform. then fight hatton but once again he lost to colazo.then to fight cotto at 145 when he just got assualted by margo and then to a human punching bag in clottey then to say o foremen iis to big but ill fight at 150 for a 154 belt and how bout margo as the opp gtfoh

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          #64
          Originally posted by gondixs
          like i said manny might have looked good moving up but hasnt fought anyone in there prime since stepping up and everyone is sayin omg he is the big fighter ever since armstrong common get real...he fought diaz the softest champ at the time at 135 why not rematch marquenz since it was sd now u wanna move up then fights oscar at 147 knowing he couldnt make that weight and perform. then fight hatton but once again he lost to colazo.then to fight cotto at 145 when he just got assualted by margo and then to a human punching bag in clottey then to say o foremen iis to big but ill fight at 150 for a 154 belt and how bout margo as the opp gtfoh
          Well it was Oscar who called him out and the only idiot I know who turns down Oscar is Winky Wright. So how much flak should Pac get for that?

          And, I don't know how much the really "knew" Oscar was going to look prior to that fight. Considering that not a lot of people gave Pac a chance. Now of course looking back at hindsight it is easy to see that it was an easy win. But, at the time it didn't look so easy by the majority of people.

          Should he be mentioned amongst Armstrongs cuz of that win? Well if that is your point then no, should he be criticized for that fight or win? The answer is no to that also.

          And, Pac shouldn't get credit for the Hatton win cuz he "lost" to Collazo? Is that what you saying? What about Floyd then? Should he get credit for beating Hatton after Hatton "lost" to Collazo?

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          • gondixs
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            #65
            And, Pac shouldn't get credit for the Hatton win cuz he "lost" to Collazo? Is that what you saying? What about Floyd then? Should he get credit for beating Hatton after Hatton "lost" to Collazo?

            they both should get credit for winning but are they great wins no...all im sayin is manny is very good but not the way ppl are saying that hes destroying all comp bc u know and i know none of those fighters who fought were in there prime and are all names and nothing more at this point in there lifes.

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              #66
              Originally posted by gondixs
              And, Pac shouldn't get credit for the Hatton win cuz he "lost" to Collazo? Is that what you saying? What about Floyd then? Should he get credit for beating Hatton after Hatton "lost" to Collazo?

              they both should get credit for winning but are they great wins no...all im sayin is manny is very good but not the way ppl are saying that hes destroying all comp bc u know and i know none of those fighters who fought were in there prime and are all names and nothing more at this point in there lifes.
              I still stand by Barrera being in his prime. So I really don't know WTF you're talking about that he is just a "name"

              And, LOL @ fighter losing just once in a fight that could of gone either way and all of a sudden he is not prime anymore.

              You're an idiot my friend. Take Mak advice and just log off.

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              • | THE KING |
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                #67
                Why bother with gon****s?.. Dude needs his head checked.

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                • Dempsey-Roll
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                  #68
                  TS sounds like another Pac-Discrediter to me.
                  And PLEASE.... Barrera just a name?! You're just crazy now.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #69
                    Absolutely diabolical OP.
                    Nobody would beat Hatton in 2 rounds, and nobody ever did that to Clottey and how many WWs has clottey fought.
                    Nuff said.

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                    • FerdinandMarcos
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      He's great, not good.
                      Great fighters don't need catchweights to pound on recently KO'd plodders.

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