Manny is good not great(heres why)

[-MAKAVELLI-]

you should log off of MANNY COX ok ok u talking about morales and barrera but not sayin anything about other...i named a few other ppl beside them two ..daiz?oscar?hatton?cotto?clottey?

stop stuttering you twat

what about those other wins? name me a fighter that's moved up in weight, despite the opposition and looked that impressive...go on...lets hear it

[Eaner0919]

But, Peden wasn't a bad fighter though at the time. He was coming off 2 KO wins over Nate Campbell, yes one of them KO's was knucklehead mistake by Campbell. But, he did again in the rematch. And, Barrera clearly won 9 or 10 rounds against Peden. I don't think it was a crap win. I think JMM win over Peden was much better. But, Barrera win was still OK at best but not crap IMO.

IMO it was

Peden never really won a meaningful fight, maybe Nate but even then it's not like Nate during that time.

[jrosales13]

listen EaRner...i'm done with you

Now, you have done it.

I should leave before the massacre starts by my Mexican brother .

[odogg8121]

Don't you dare compare Baldo to Barrera.

First of all Baldo might have been the lineal WW champ. But, that doesn't mean he was the best WW. Margarito was a better WW than Baldo.

Not only was Barrera the lineal champ, but he was the best FW at that time. Could nobody say there was even another FW arguably better. And, Barrera was an elite P4P discussion.

So take that Baldo argument somewhere else.

Get your thumb out of your butt for a sec and calm yourself young man...I wasn't comparing fighters I was comparing his theory....

He said he beat the guys at the top of his div well Baldo was the very top wasn't he...oh ok

[Eaner0919]

listen EaRner...i'm done with you

ahahaha you ass!!!

I hope you guys aren't confusing this to me this is two seperate debates

the one ***** Baggins is having, and losing badly with you guys

and the Barrera debate I am having

[jrosales13]

Get your thumb out of your butt for a sec and calm yourself young man...I wasn't comparing fighters I was comparing his theory....

Still....

His theory with Barrera is much different than Baldo.

Not only was Barrera the man of the division he was also the best fighter. Baldo might have been the man cuz he beat the man but he wasn't the best fighter in the division.

So that comparison is still whack.

[Eaner0919]

Well aren't you one of the ppl that said Floyd's win over Baldo wasnt ****, but Baldo was the real WW lineal champ at the time....

did you consider Buster Douglass the best heavyweight in the world ever?

what about Zsolt Erdei?

[Eaner0919]

Still....

His theory with Barrera is much different than Baldo.

Not only was Barrera the man of the division he was also the best fighter. Baldo might have been the man cuz he beat the man but he wasn't the best fighter in the division.

So that comparison is still whack.

it's sustainability

Baldomir never sustained a great or even good career enough to be considered a true champion of anything

Barrera OTOH did

[gondixs]

like i said manny might have looked good moving up but hasnt fought anyone in there prime since stepping up and everyone is sayin omg he is the big fighter ever since armstrong common get real...he fought diaz the softest champ at the time at 135 why not rematch marquenz since it was sd now u wanna move up then fights oscar at 147 knowing he couldnt make that weight and perform. then fight hatton but once again he lost to colazo.then to fight cotto at 145 when he just got assualted by margo and then to a human punching bag in clottey then to say o foremen iis to big but ill fight at 150 for a 154 belt and how bout margo as the opp gtfoh

[odogg8121]

Still....

His theory with Barrera is much different than Baldo.

Not only was Barrera the man of the division he was also the best fighter. Baldo might have been the man cuz he beat the man but he wasn't the best fighter in the division.

So that comparison is still whack.

"peeleft:

If you had reading compretion skills you would be deadly. I did not compare fighters I compared his theory because of things he said in the past. I have gone back and forth with you on here too; but I haven’t seen you flip flop; he just showed double standards, and I was pointing it out using his own theory. Now if you can’t understand that maybe you’re just being a bit tardy…