Manny is good not great(heres why)
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I only read the first post and to say that Barrera was done in the first fight. Is just plain ridiculous. Barrera was in his absolute prime an elite P4P fighter. And, a very versatile fighter. People like to talk about styles. But, Barrera was versatile enough and could do it all.
Pac is ahead out of all the active ATG's which include Roy, Floyd, and B-Hop. In that order.
To say Pac is not great is just being a hater and nothing more.
I am pretty sure you mentioned more inaccuracies in your post. But, I couldn't get past the first paragraph. To know how dumb it really was.Comment
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This aint nothin but a persons perspective of manny, I love boxing, am i a many fan no am i a floyd fan no, Im a boxing fan, now if your lookn at strickly resume Manny is great, but if you lookin at the perspective of how he fights, he's really good not great, same for Floyd except his is reversed, his resume is good not great, but if you look at how he fights you would say he's great. I personally think Manny is very good not great! I thik Bob Arum picked his fights very well these past few years that y ppl are amazed with Manny. Styles make fights an Arum has picked good 1 for manny plus if you throw n the catch w8 pure genius. Has any1 notice Manny hasn't faced a slick boxer since JMM? All of the ppl he has face hav been old, broken, slow, or come forward fighters. Look its not hate, just like ppl wanna c Floyd fight sum1 I wanna c Manny fight sum1 that posseses the tools to beat him.
Pac fights at 126 he fought Barrera and Marquez currently the best in that division. Take note in Nov. 2003-2004, any fighters at 126 <<< Barrera and Marquez.
Pac fights at 130 he fought the 3 Mexican legends, his trilogy with Morales, rematch with Barrera and Marquez. Take note between 2005-2008, any fighters at 130 <<< Morales, Barrera and Marquez.
Pac first fight at 135 he straight away fought a decent champ David Diaz while most of the fighters will take a tune up fight first, testing the water by fighting a bum or less dangerous opponent. Pac immediately move up to fight Oscar after the distruction of Diaz. Take note in December 2008, any fighters at lightweight <<< Oscar at 147 before the outcome of their fight.
Pac first fight at 147 he jumped straight away from 135 (Pac has only one fight at 135 to boot) to 147 to fight Oscar yet some other ridiculous *****s wanted the fight to happen at 154 or 160 so Oscar can re-hydrate as middleweight against lightweight Pac.
Pac first fight at 140 he moved down from 147 after the Oscar fight to fight Hatton at best weight where he actually undefeated. Unlike Floyd asked Hatton and JMM to move up in his division to his advantage. Take note in May 2009, any fighters at 140 <<< Hatton.
Pac first title fight at welterweight he moved up from 140 after the Hatton fight to fight Cotto at 145. Take note in November 2009, any fighters at welterweight, Floyd (scared), Mosley & Clottey (already lose to him), Margarito (plaster) <<<< Cotto.
Pac also fought Clottey, a big durable welterweight and for the first time Clottey admitted he felt Pac fight was his only true loses.
Put aside the title, now Pac scheduled to fight Margarito at 150. No matter how the *****s spin it, this is a dangerous fight for him than at 147.
Anybody are welcome to say who he should fought considering the time where he is in.Last edited by straightleft; 10-29-2010, 01:22 AM.Comment
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LOL, now that Pac is just less than 3 weeks away, Gayweather nuthuggers are trying to make noise.Comment
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My keys to a great fighter
A. Fight EVERYBODY
B. Fight, don't run
C. Initiate confrontation
Leonard didn't run from Hearns, nor did he do the shoulder roll till Hearns was all tired. He fought the whole fight.Comment
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+ rep and Im no fan of manny but respect him as a fighter and can comfortably say he's more of a great physical specimen than an actually skilled boxer but what he does, he does well. So I respect the skills he does possess.Comment
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Sasakul, Ledwaba, Barrera, Marquez, Morales, Diaz, Hatton, Oscar, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito are from good to very good if not some of them are great fighters and HOFs. Beating them in one sided fashion except JMM and Marg of course = Pac just a good fighter according to *****s? Someone should tell them coward Floyd is greater than Pac to make their butts happy!Comment
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The only thing u could say about Pac at featherweight was he beat Morales on the downside to his career, and he didn't rematch Marquez.
Cotto at a catchweight definitely holds him back, and Margarito at a catchweight for a title after Margarito was exposed definitely holds him back. But he's on that ATG list. He may not be as high as some *******s think (saying stuff like if Pac beats Marg he's higher than Robinson), but he's on it. And arguably, he's pretty high on it.Comment
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