Interesting video on drug test issue

[deejd]

He sure knows how to use the internet.. Remember his reality tv that got him in all sort of trouble. Then of course you have his twitter, facebook, youtube, i-phone apps..
Pac had blisters after the fight. He showed it at live tv.

Because he was on all that during negotiations in '09 right? Wrong.

[deejd]

Simple, weight penalties are there as a preventative measure so that fighters do not cheat the scales.. ie. Floyd vs Marquez.

No cheat = No penalty.

Bottom Line:
HBO President unsure why Mayweather turned Pacquiao down

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=32433

So you're still talking about weight even though you claim I'm the one stuck on the issue....

Cheating? When has Mayweather failed to make '47? Find that for me, please.

[deejd]

Different circumstances man.. One can actually affect a fighter (blood testing).. while making weight is normal procedure.

IV's in one's arm isn't normal procedure.

[deejd]

Yes he did. So this penalty applies to Manny as well..

Just like the testing does to Mayweather.

[deejd]

floyd ducked manny, that's all there is to it.

hbo honcho said it, he doesnt understand why floyd doesnt want the fight. greenburg never said floyd didnt like the terms or deals, he said floyd just dont want to fight. he's just too diplomatic to say floyd ducked manny

Of course he said it, he's not making money with Pacquiao-Margarito.

[mikemurni]

Because he was on all that during negotiations in '09 right? Wrong.

Yes, he was..

[mikemurni]

The NSAC doesn't demand $10 million weight penalties, are you seeing the light yet?

Mayweather's missed weight at '47? That's news to me, against whom?

Never stated Pacquiao was on steroids, I simply made the point that traveling four weight classes in 24 months, that you made a point of, isn't natural.

So once again, thank you for adhering to the fact that he hasn't faced the best competition while possibly using.

your wel..co..me?

The NSAC demand fighters to make weight.

Mayweather missed weight that he was suppose to make. Wanna spin that **** again.

Yeah, so what happened to your original point about him not fightin the best fighters? In other words, you divertin' subject because you dont have response.

[Gorilla Dogs]

so since pac is really good and floyd is SUPPOSIDLY BETTER than doesnt that mean floyd is juicin too?

[Dynamite Kid]

Did I miss something, I thought Toney looked like **** against Batchelder, I thought Vargas got KTFO against Oscar ?

Anyone who actually watches Boxing closely, will notice during the Barrera rematch, that Manny was using more head movement, showed more patience, tried to box more, where did Pac miraculously find the array of counter punches he hit Diaz with, I guess that came in a box with his PED's?

[mikemurni]

Great job avoiding the fact you were wrong, again. Then again, that's brick for you.

Sure, because I am sure you were right about Morales weight, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9-HTDcxhEY

http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/5/20...s-cotto-mosley

They were talking to Mosley at the same time and when Mosley caved to their demands they tuned him out and kept pursuing Cotto. Cotto beating Mosley happened before Cotto was stopped by Margarito. Then Mosley destroyed Margarito. By your logic, Mosley actually destroyed Cotto. Fact of the matter is that Pacquiao fought Cotto at an uncomfortable weight after looking awful in his previous bout. They didn't pick Mosley because Mosley looked great in his previous bout and he agreed willing to their weight and offered to go even lower.

Mosley was never an option, moron. Arum and Pac were waitin’ for Cotto/Clottey fight expectin Cotto to win. More money for Pac and Arum to fight Top Rank fighter in Cotto, than to share revenue with GBP by fightin’ Mosley


Now Pacquiao is fighting Margarito at a catchweight for a title made for '54 and Margs looked average at best in his last fight. Go watch it, you'll see the light, brick.
When was the failed first negotiation? When is Pac fightin Marg? Find a relation with those date, and see if you find one?


Clottey was never formidable. If pacquiao fans can speak down on Mayweather for his resume claiming Judah's a bum, then he can't be glorified for the sake Pacquiao's resume via Joshua Clottey. Get a grip; Clottey has no significant wins at '47 and he never will. Shane Mosley was the top welterweight because he beat "the guy" at that weight. Berto is still at '47 and Pacquiao could have faced him, the WBC champion, but they turned the cheek at that option when they ran from Mayweather's testing demand.

Sure, because Berto has fought the best fighter’s at WW, right?. Can you name one, please?

Pacquiao said he wouldn't exceed in weight when he said it right? He has just fought at the '45 lb. weight limit right? His next fight, he wants the fight '47. Not '44, not '45, but '47. He lied and went up in weight. Now look where he's fighting. '50. It's okay, the guy lies.
He said couldn’t move beyond ’47 so his next fight was ’47. So how did he lie??
’50 is on November 2010. ’47 was in Mar ’10. Pac interview with Kenny was Nov ‘09. Failed May-Pac first negation was Jan’ 10. See the chronology of events, now? Or you still wanna spin the issue?


Huh? Oh, so you're saying Mayweather was 147 pounds when he was sparring in that footage. Terrible counterpoint, brick. Now you're just desperate.

I am not desperate, you are just confused...as always

Obviously you don't seem high enough on your response to make a point of it, I expect that of bricks though.

Sure, because a reply like “Huh?” is rich source of information for a response… Hey???

No, brick. Cotto wanted to fight at '47. Then when Roach moved from '43 to '44. Cotto sttated he couldn't go lower than '46. Roach then wanted '45, and fortunately for them, Cotto gave in and agreed to '45. It's like buying a new car; The dealership sets this high price in order for the customer to talk them down to the price the dealership actually wants. simple enough, brick?

Pac ask for a catchweight from the start. Cotto was amenable for ’45 but nothin’ less. The ’47 was never goin’ to fly with Team Pac at that time. Stop using analogy on topics you don’t know **** about..


Roach is part of Pac's team, brick. You continue trying to talk yourself into thinking you sound knowledgeable about anything. DLH look awful at '50 against Forbes so Roach wanted to drain him even further. He's already gone on record admitting this.

Roach is part of Pac’s training team. Negotiations are not done without him. Both GB and Top Rank agreed to 147… No one wanted to drag DLH to ’47 because he of his last fight..Stop makin’ **** up