Comments Thread For: Povetkin: I’ll Gladly Make Another Run at The Olympics

[ShoulderRoll]

sorry but grant was broken down before he signed with atlas.atlas just tried to pick up humpty dumpty & put him back together...golota gave him a serious beating before he quit,lewis finished him off.he took a year off to enjoy the 5 million he got from the lennox fight, then signed with atlas & broke his ankle in the first round vs mccline...he came back almost a year later & fought several bums & his last tuneup fight vs gilbert martinez was a stinker.atlas asked him after the fight(which i have on disc)if he wanted to keep boxing.he told him either to start working harder or he should consider retiring....guinn was up next & look what happened.atlas may be a hard ass but can tell when a fighter isnt trying.briggs was the same.he was too busy rapping,acting & living the good life too bother working hard.atlas warned him either you put in the time or im not putting in the time with you.briggs ignored teddy & wilson koed him.atlas dumped him after the trip to the hospital.briggs made excuses he had an ashsma attack.teddy was not inpressed.michael moorer situation was atlas told moorer to work harder & he didnt & foreman knocked him out.atlas told moorer he should retire because his heart wasnt into it anymore...moorer balked cast teddy aside & tua knocked him out in 30 seconds....guys just tune out teddy's tough love & every single one of the guys never did much after other then briggs.briggs after a comeback fight vs okine on espn stated on the air that teddy was right all along,that he should have listened to him & said alot of good things about teddy.he actually apologized for not working hard enough.many people are critical of atlas but he's really just that ******* boss you hate to work for.....but if you do what he says sometimes good things happen...eg.moorer beating holyfield

Good post, man.

Sadly logic doesn't enter into the head of the Teddy Atlas haters.

[Steelhammer2011]

No one is big of a vagina as Gaye, Povetkin never proclaimed that he was the best and made t-shirts of the bros, he just quitely missed out on his mandatories for two years, meanwhile Gaye has been talking up a storm for over 2 years.

Agreed. Haye is still by far the biggest coward in boxing, followed by Mayweather, Dirrell, Povetkin, etc.

[The Hammer]

You unwittingly make my point for me: guys don't do well after Teddy is done with them because Teddy destroys them.

Teddy is a lunatic who wants to destroy fighters' confidence. Michael Grant has some very interesting things to say about Teddy. Teddy destroyed his confidence and made him a self-loathing individual.

All one has to do is look at the trajectory of Povetkin's career since Teddy took the reins to see the "Atlas effect."

Povetkin is being destroyed by the cancer that is Teddy Atlas. He made a fatal mistake when he allowed Teddy to take control of his career.

Yes.

Before Atlas, Grant's only loss was to a top ten ATG heavyweight Lennox Lewis. And Michael showed a lot of heart in that fight.

Grant beat some decent opponents before Atlas got a hold of him, like prime Golota.

But in his first fight working with Atlas against McCline, he went in without warming up and became injured as he fell from the first punch of the fight. Then with Atlas, he fought a string of bums (like Povetkin is doing now), and then having lost his confidence, was stopped when he finally fought a decent opponent in Dominick Guinn.

Before the Guinn fight in the boxing gym, Atlas was so verbally abusive to Grant he actually had him crying.

Teddy Atlas is a nutcase.

[Clegg]

If he wasn't on TV and if he hadn't been involved with Tyson then I doubt anyone would rate Teddy that highly as a trainer. As it is his commentary is often full of nonsense and he was never the main guy at the Tyson camp, plus he left when Mike was still very young.

Of course, very few people know what goes on during different training camps and inside boxer's heads, but I don't think his resume as a trainer is that great. Maybe I'm forgetting something but only Moorer's win over Holyfield really stands out, the rest of his history as a trainer is a mixed bag that I think many trainers could've matched if given the chance.

[ChopperRead]

Yes.

Before Atlas, Grant's only loss was to a top ten ATG heavyweight Lennox Lewis. And Michael showed a lot of heart in that fight.

Grant beat some decent opponents before Atlas got a hold of him, like prime Golota.

But in his first fight working with Atlas against McCline, he went in without warming up and became injured as he fell from the first punch of the fight. Then with Atlas, he fought a string of bums (like Povetkin is doing now), and then having lost his confidence, was stopped when he finally fought a decent opponent in Dominick Guinn.

Before the Guinn fight in the boxing gym, Atlas was so verbally abusive to Grant he actually had him crying.

Teddy Atlas is a nutcase.

Yep. Teddy is a sadistic bully. He gets his jollies bullying the unfortunate boxers who make the mistake of employing him. Even in Povetkin's recent fight, there was Teddy after the first round slapping Povetkin across the face in the corner. I'm afraid if Teddy did that to me, trainer or no trainer, I'd blast a right cross into his jaw and tell him to get out of the ring. Teddy's thing is breaking someone down psychologically. He wants to think everyone is "soft" except Teddy Atlas. How more fighters haven't rebelled and kicked the crap out of him I don't know.

[ChopperRead]

Good post, man.

Sadly logic doesn't enter into the head of the Teddy Atlas haters.

Logic? Here's some logic: Povetkin gets involved with Teddy, blows off a press conference with Wladimir for a $2 million title fight, ends up fighting a "dark exhibition" against Bruce Seldon instead, then takes another fight against a tomato can named Teke Oruh and gets tagged hard a few times before he finally KOs the bum. Now Povetkin is talking about returning to fight in the Olympics! He's right back where he started from!

Logic states that the trajectory of Povetkin's career since he hooked up with psycho Teddy Atlas is straight downhill. He's gone from being considered a serious contender for a HW title to being a running joke and a cautionary tale.

[The Hammer]

If he wasn't on TV and if he hadn't been involved with Tyson then I doubt anyone would rate Teddy that highly as a trainer. As it is his commentary is often full of nonsense and he was never the main guy at the Tyson camp, plus he left when Mike was still very young.

Of course, very few people know what goes on during different training camps and inside boxer's heads, but I don't think his resume as a trainer is that great. Maybe I'm forgetting something but only Moorer's win over Holyfield really stands out, the rest of his history as a trainer is a mixed bag that I think many trainers could've matched if given the chance.

In three decades, Atlas has only ever had ONE win as a trainer in a world title fight.

Even Kelly Pavlik's trainer Jack Loew has THREE.

Enzo Calzaghe has about TWENTY-FIVE world title fight wins.

Povetkin's former trainer Uli Wegner has at least THIRTY-FIVE world title fight wins with Huck, Abraham, Ottke, Maske, etc.

Manny Steward has about FORTY world title fight wins as a trainer.

[crold1]

You could have had Grant trained by ray Arcel and Eddie Futch and, after the Golota fight, it wouldn't have mattered. Grant never recovered from the beating he took there and getting smashed into the floor by Lewis right after was all she wrote. Golota savagely whipped his ass for most of the night before he went Golota and quit. People forget how nasty that was.

[LeadUppercut]

Agreed. Haye is still by far the biggest coward in boxing, followed by Mayweather, Dirrell, Povetkin, etc.

There aren't any cowards in boxing, just childish fans.....

[southpaw_07]

I used to defend Teddy Atlas but now I just realize that he destroyed another fighter under his care. Povetkin is ready to give up pro boxing ..poor boy listened to Teddy and missed a chance to cash in over $2 million.
And worse is, people around him say that he didn't even progress under Teddy's care, not a bit.