Comments Thread For: Roach Eyes KO Win: Margarito Slow, Defense is Terrible

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Marquez calling out Floyd is suppose to ok the fact that Floyd fought a little lightweight.. If Pac fought a fighter two divisions below you and all these other biased fans would crucify him on top of that if Pac didnt make the weight against the smaller fighter.. Come on...

Please dont tell me Floyd doesnt try to give himself advantages, funny thing about it is Floyd gives himself the weight advantage against a smaller guy..

Ummmm...... Manny Pacquiao is around the same size as JMM.
Manny is 5ft 6.5inches and JMM is 5ft 7inches. By your logic, if
Floyd fought and dominated Pac then he would be a lil light
weight as well because Pac is shorter than JMM? JMM even gave
Manny two of his most competitive fights that to this day are
questionable wins on his resume. How much did Floyd weigh on
fight night with JMM? the catchweight was 144 and he came in
around 146 or so? Floyd is not a fighter who imposes his weight
on his opponents because if that was the case, JMM would
have been KO'd. Cotto and Margarito are pressure fighters
who rely on their size and power to back down their
opponents AND both fights were and are at catchweights.
Your saying that I would crucify Manny but your crucifier
Floyd.

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Marquez calling out Floyd is suppose to ok the fact that Floyd fought a little lightweight.. If Pac fought a fighter two divisions below you and all these other biased fans would crucify him on top of that if Pac didnt make the weight against the smaller fighter.. Come on...

Please dont tell me Floyd doesnt try to give himself advantages, funny thing about it is Floyd gives himself the weight advantage against a smaller guy..

What made Marquez calling out Floyd a legitimate challenge was the fact that Manny was avoiding Marquez for one then Marquez was ranked #2 p4p at the time also. Now with Pac/Cheato 24/7 We now know that Pac never agreed to unrestricted random testing. Pac is a whack ass fake.

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Ummmm...... Manny Pacquiao is around the same size as JMM.
Manny is 5ft 6.5inches and JMM is 5ft 7inches. By your logic, if
Floyd fought and dominated Pac then he would be a lil light
weight as well because Pac is shorter than JMM? JMM even gave
Manny two of his most competitive fights that to this day are
questionable wins on his resume. How much did Floyd weigh on
fight night with JMM? the catchweight was 144 and he came in
around 146 or so? Floyd is not a fighter who imposes his weight
on his opponents because if that was the case, JMM would
have been KO'd. Cotto and Margarito are pressure fighters
who rely on their size and power to back down their
opponents AND both fights were and are at catchweights.
Your saying that I would crucify Manny but your crucifier
Floyd.

Seriously, this is your response.. Marquez can call out anyone he wants but Marquez has NEVER BEEN A WELTERWEIGHT and still looks sluggish at 135.. Floyd fought a little man who has no businesses being at Welterweight..

Pac is fighteing bigger stronger guys, guys that Floyd NEVER FOUGHT again NEVER.. And dont say those extra pounds would of gave Cotto, Clottey, Hatton, and Delaquttier an advantage cause Pac beat them in the ring.. They didnt loss it on the scales..


3 legitimate Welters Pac has fought while Floyd has 1 win over Shane whos stock didnt look anymore impressive looking old and getting that draw against the Latin Fake..

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Why do you think that Mayweather waited til Mosley was an OLD man before he fought him?

Why did it look like jr was backed into a corner to sigh to fight Mosley?

Why did Jr. nearly get KO'd by an OLD MAN MOSLEY in the 2nd round ?

just one more. Jr. has been taking some hits, he did with Judah in about the 2nd, Hatton had him nearly down in the first was it ? and then MOSLEY shot it all in the 2nd but had Jr. looking real bad man. His time is coming when someone will not only rock Jr. but put him down and keep him down.

Just so you know , Pacman can do that.

And don't come up with the lame excuse of drug testing, anybody that knows anything without coming up with these lame phrases knows Pac ain't on some ****** drug. Mayweather has Ducked Pac like he ducked Margo.

Truth is Mayweather is the one who should be in the ring on Nov 13 but he is too buzy with other things.

sad , for the fans.

Ok, so according to you Floyd waited till Mosley got old
but in reality Floyd wanted to fight Mosley and Oscar
since he was a Jr Lightweight and Shane was a Lightweight
but Shane didn't want the fight. Floyd even called Mosley
out after the Bruseles fight and said that he was moving up
to 147 to try to land a fight with Shane and Oscar. All of this
is documented as facts. Another fact is that Manny Pacquiao
and Freddie Roach did not want to fight according to you
"an old Mosley" and Mosley was begging for the fight. Even
was willing to go down to 142/140. Pac said NO and fought
Cotto at 145? Shane got some hard solid punches off. the
best at that and Floyd weathered them then dominated
Mosley.

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What made Marquez calling out Floyd a legitimate challenge was the fact that Manny was avoiding Marquez for one then Marquez was ranked #2 p4p at the time also. Now with Pac/Cheato 24/7 We now know that Pac never agreed to unrestricted random testing. Pac is a whack ass fake.

Obviously your a biased Floyd fan who refuses to accept that fact that FLOYD JUST NEVER WANTED THE FIGHT..

Funny how Marquez can call out Floyd can Floyd jumps on the opportunity while Pac and his people are conducting negotiations with Floyd and his Team denies negotiations ever happened...

Just answer this question?
Where is Floyd and why isnt he leading this "Cleaning up the Sport" campaign

Oh thats right HES NOT THINKING ABOUT BOXING..

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Seriously, this is your response.. Marquez can call out anyone he wants but Marquez has NEVER BEEN A WELTERWEIGHT and still looks sluggish at 135.. Floyd fought a little man who has no businesses being at Welterweight..

Pac is fighteing bigger stronger guys, guys that Floyd NEVER FOUGHT again NEVER.. And dont say those extra pounds would of gave Cotto, Clottey, Hatton, and Delaquttier an advantage cause Pac beat them in the ring.. They didnt loss it on the scales..


3 legitimate Welters Pac has fought while Floyd has 1 win over Shane whos stock didnt look anymore impressive looking old and getting that draw against the Latin Fake..

Ok, Pacquiao fought Cotto, Clottey and now Margarito
(2x at catchweights) But your right, Floyd didn't fight them.
Marquez is a smaller man but so is Manny and Manny
cannot equally compete with bigger guys because he
needed catchweights for both. For Clottey he didn't
because Clottey is not a pressure fighter. Another
difference between Pac and Floyd fights at WW is that,
unlike Cotto, Clottey and now Margarito..... People actually
thought Shane had a better chance of beating Floyd
than Cotto, Clottey and Margarito did/does at beating Pac.
So who is really getting the advantages?

[trainhard_187]

Ok, so according to you Floyd waited till Mosley got old
but in reality Floyd wanted to fight Mosley and Oscar
since he was a Jr Lightweight and Shane was a Lightweight
but Shane didn't want the fight. Floyd even called Mosley
out after the Bruseles fight and said that he was moving up
to 147 to try to land a fight with Shane and Oscar. All of this
is documented as facts. Another fact is that Manny Pacquiao
and Freddie Roach did not want to fight according to you
"an old Mosley" and Mosley was begging for the fight. Even
was willing to go down to 142/140. Pac said NO and fought
Cotto at 145? Shane got some hard solid punches off. the
best at that and Floyd weathered them then dominated
Mosley.

Floyd beat Shane, ok.. Lets give credit where credit is due... But Shane looking just as old against the latin fake and getting a disputable draw.. Now how does that Win Floyd has over Shane look..

But Cotto on the other hand takes a title at 154 so I guess he really isnt that shot. But the other three Clottey, DLH, and Hatton are no where to be found..

Kinda tells you something...

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[QUOTE=trainhard_187;9461125]Seriously, this is your response.. Marquez can call out anyone he wants but Marquez has NEVER BEEN A WELTERWEIGHT and still looks sluggish at 135.. Floyd fought a little man who has no businesses being at Welterweight..

Pac is fighteing bigger stronger guys, guys that Floyd NEVER FOUGHT again NEVER.. And dont say those extra pounds would of gave Cotto, Clottey, Hatton, and Delaquttier an advantage cause Pac beat them in the ring.. They didnt loss it on the scales..


3 legitimate Welters Pac has fought while Floyd has 1 win over Shane whos stock didnt look anymore impressive looking old and getting that draw against the Latin Fake..[/QUOT


Floyd fought a man Pac is still avoiding to this day and now Pac is fighting a man old Shane (according to you) just smashed. Get your story straight dude. Are you saying Marquez doesn't deserve another fight with Pac? Don't make him too little then big enough.

[trainhard_187]

Ok, Pacquiao fought Cotto, Clottey and now Margarito
(2x at catchweights) But your right, Floyd didn't fight them.
Marquez is a smaller man but so is Manny and Manny
cannot equally compete with bigger guys because he
needed catchweights for both. For Clottey he didn't
because Clottey is not a pressure fighter. Another
difference between Pac and Floyd fights at WW is that,
unlike Cotto, Clottey and now Margarito..... People actually
thought Shane had a better chance of beating Floyd
than Cotto, Clottey and Margarito did/does at beating Pac.
So who is really getting the advantages?

Seriously Grust, I know you know your boxing but lets be real..
You think the extra two pounds on weigh in would of given Cotto a better chance? And Turtle Clottey was fought at 147.. Now Margarito who spent a good part of his career at 147, this fight is at 150 is that really a disadvantage for Marg coming in at 150.. I doubt it..

The only one ill let slide is Oscar, a little extra weight on him would of probably helped out Oscar but again, the 147 catchweight was Oscars choice..

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Advantages? Come on dude, I thought you were smarter then that..

Pacquiao is fighting Margarito at a catchweight of 150lbs.. Margartio spent most of his a career at 147... The 150 is for that dumb pointless 8th title..


Shane fought Margarito at 147, Floyd NEVER fought Margarito...
What advantages is Pac giving himself by making Marg weigh 150 when Marg spent his career at 147..

Shane Mosley DEMOLISHED Antonio Margarito. Antonio Margarito
got caught cheating in a fight with Mosley, who according to you
is an old guy. Margarito is overrated and always was. Maybe if
Arum would have put the right numbers together and guaranteed
Floyd the Oscar fight plus the 10Mil on Hatton/Cotto then Margarito
would have got the Floyd fight. Instead, Arum said to make the
De La Hoya fight was impossible and that's when Floyd bounced
and got the fight anyway. Pacquiao NEVER tried to fight or
negotiate a Mosley fight young or old.