Would Floyd still be bashed if fought winner of Williams vs Martinez instead of Pac?

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  • Khalid X
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    #21
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Martinez will be 36 by the time it would happen so he would without doubt be called old. And im guessing Williams will be called not that good anyway, or something of that nature. I honestly believe this. And most of the people in here who are saying 'i would give floyd all the credit in the world if he fought those 2' just stop it, you know for a fact you won't, you literally said the exact same thing when the Mosley fight was being talked about.
    Actually I have always given Floyd props, especially when he beat Shane. Hell there probably isn't a poster on this site that gives Floyd as much credit for his win over Judah as I do.

    Pre-Kostya Tszyu I truly believed Zab would beat Floyd.
    Last edited by Khalid X; 10-24-2010, 01:20 AM.

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      #22
      Originally posted by -Top Rank-
      Actually I have always gave Floyd props, especially when he beat Floyd. Hell there probably isn't a poster on this site that gives Floyd as much credit for his win over Judah as I do.

      Pre-Kostya Tszyu I truly believed Zab would beat Floyd.
      That's why i used the term 'most'.

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      • AFighter4U
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        #23
        I would give him credit that only if he fought valiantly and loses the fight if he won it must have been fixed.

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        • sicklelee
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          #24
          Originally posted by joelab75
          williams or martinez are not tougher fight that Manny. Manny has the skills, speed and power to end Floyd.

          if anyone here think Martinez and Williams are better than Manny is just plain ******. manny already considered ATG's while those two are considered what? a 3rd ballot hall of famer?
          Williams would crush Pac-man if they fought and Martinez probably would win by decision on points! Martinez can box and we all know Pac has trouble with technical boxers!

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          • NesNY
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            #25
            that's a trick question.

            Al Haymon represents both Paul Williams and Floyd Mayweather, Jr....so that fight will NEVER happen.

            Sergio Martinez is fighting at 157 lbs in his next fight, and 160lbs naturally....Floyd is currently extremely comfortable at WW. again, that fight will NEVER happen.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by NesNY
              that's a trick question.

              Al Haymon represents both Paul Williams and Floyd Mayweather, Jr....so that fight will NEVER happen.

              Sergio Martinez is fighting at 157 lbs in his next fight, and 160lbs naturally....Floyd is currently extremely comfortable at WW. again, that fight will NEVER happen.
              He's not asking if you think it will happen, he's asking if you will give him his props if he did. But of course, we already know that you obviously won't.

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                #27
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                He's not asking if you think it will happen, he;s asking if you will give him his props if he did. But of course, we already know that you obviosly won't.
                good guess.

                Because beating 2 current, prime, BIGGER, stronger p4p fighters means nothing?

                Floyd would absolutely get his props. But again...Floyd wins all fantasy fights. Just refuses to fight the real ones.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by NesNY
                  good guess.

                  Because beating 2 current, prime, BIGGER, stronger p4p fighters means nothing?

                  Floyd would absolutely get his props. But again...Floyd wins all fantasy fights. Just refuses to fight the real ones.
                  But i thought anyone above 35 is not in there prime anymore, didn't you say that? Sergio would be 36 if he were to fight Mayweather next year.

                  I distinctively remember you saying the exact same thing about Mosley reagarding fantasy fights and giving Floyd his props, figures.

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                  • NesNY
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    But i thought anyone above 35 is not in there prime anymore, didn't you say that? Sergio would be 36 if he were to fight Mayweather next year.

                    I distinctively remember you saying the exact same thing about Mosley reagarding fantasy fights and giving Floyd his props, figures.





                    1. you "distinctly", not "distinctively", remember me saying something.
                    2. Prime is measured on performance vs. Quality opponents.
                    3. SKILLED fighters stay prime or close-to-prime through their twilight years...especially late bloomers like B Hop and Sergio. See also JMM.
                    4. please find a quote where I say prime is based on age, it's based on PERFORMANCE. Mosley has been performing awfully for years. And if you needed any more proof that he's BEEN shot to hell....do yourself the torturous disfavor of watching Mosley v. Mora.
                    Last edited by NesNY; 10-24-2010, 03:30 AM.

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                    • boxingfan_123
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                      #30
                      the pac fight didnt happen twice so i dont see how he would go against martinez or williams who are considered the best in the next weight class up? of course he'd get his props

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