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  • IMDAZED
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    #51
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    How does KO% ratio fall into HOF status?

    If that is the case Edwin Valero with his 100% KO ratio is not only a HOF'er but P4P the GOAT.

    SRR has nothing on Valero.

    WTF are we talking about here?
    Nonsense.

    Utter d*ck-riding nonsense.

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    • Chuckguy
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      #52
      dude just because they are from eastern europe doesnt mean that they are ****ty. Or because EU are gaining belts in other divisions doesnt make it shi ty
      Vlad is boring as ***. I seriously would rather watch paint dry
      I like Vits style
      I cant beleive some people have the nerve to call maywether boring but vlad exciting
      wow

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      • WladIsTheChamp
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        #53
        Originally posted by XionComrade
        Oh you ****** nutthugger! Yeah I guess he beat the same Holyfield that had went through two freaking heart attacks and a world of wars...And lost to James Toney...Thank you for bringing that up, Byrd's BEST win was against Evander when he was 1/4 the fighter he was in his prime, thank you for shooting yourself down because we are tired of doing it! Evander Holyfield has garnered more respect and accomplished more than BOTH Klitschkos combined. Prove me wrong! And guess what, he isn't even a natural heavyweight!

        I bet your first attempt to debunk me will be to point out that Rid**** Bowe lost/was losing to Andrew Golota?

        George Foreman became heavyweight Champion KOing Frazier in 2 round, Frazier being a better fighter than ANYONE who has ever faced either Klit. Prove me Wrong. George Foreman then continued to fight against the likes of Ron Lyle, Muhammad Ali, and Jimmy Young...All better fighters than ANYONE on either Klit resume, and Ron Lyle the harder hitter of anyone legitimate fighting today! George Foreman then retired for 10 YEARS and came back to win the title, far far past his prime in a much tougher division, and with a much better resume, than either Klitschko.

        During Foreman's comeback be DESTROYED Gerry Cooney, Bert Cooper, Moorer, and PRIME Shannon Briggs. He beat Qawi, Alex Stewart, Schulz, Savarese. And gave Evander and Morrison one of the toughest fights of their careers!
        Right, cause a 1999 Holyfield that went all twelve with Lewis twice, was that much different 3 years later when he faced Byrd. Because 3 years made all that difference. The bias and the misinformation around here is ridiculous.

        You all are ready to schlob Tyson's knob because he beat a 40-year old Holmes but when Wlad was the first man to ever beat a 40-year old Mercer by something other than a decision, gets no respect.

        Lewis dropping his belt in the trash so he doesn't have to face Byrd or Ruiz, is all of a sudden forgotten, or that he had to be saved by the ring doctor cause Vitaly was up 4-2 on the cards. Or the fact that he promptly retired so he doesn't have to face Vitaly again, forgoing a $30 million payday. All that goes out of the window, you only remember what you want to remember. All of a sudden the Klitschkos era is **** even though they fought and were champs in the same era Holyfield, Lewis, and Tyson were.

        While Ali was beating up on LHWs and CWs, being a fully grown HW, and only managing a 60% KO ratio, Wlad and Vitaly had to fight real HWs and they have the highest KO% in history.

        But don't worry, you can still watch the videos of your heroes hugging it out against Marovic or quitting against McBride without any injuries on YouTube and we get to watch the Kltischkos live still dominate the flagship division of boxing. LOL

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          #54
          Originally posted by Chuckguy
          dude just because they are from eastern europe doesnt mean that they are ****ty. Or because EU are gaining belts in other divisions doesnt make it shi ty
          Vlad is boring as ***. I seriously would rather watch paint dry
          I like Vits style
          I cant beleive some people have the nerve to call maywether boring but vlad exciting
          wow
          What's Mayweather's KO% again? When was the last time Mayweather (if ever) put someone in the hospital, or KTFO unconcious, or made them quit, or cry, or dominated every second of every round without running? Oh, that's right, we get to see him on his bike the entire 12, oh what fun...

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            #55
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            How does KO% ratio fall into HOF status?

            If that is the case Edwin Valero with his 100% KO ratio is not only a HOF'er but P4P the GOAT.

            SRR has nothing on Valero.

            WTF are we talking about here?
            So the way someone dominated an opponent has nothing to do with it? Isn't that why all the Tyson nuthuggers are calling him an ATG? Cause he knocked out a bunch of cans and old men in the first round? But then got KTFO every time he stepped up?

            So you are saying a high KO% doesn't factor at all? Isn't that why Foreman is rated so highly because of his big punch?

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              #56
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Tell me how those names are "insulting" when you compare their best wins with Vitaly best wins?
              Nothing about them compare to me. Really nothing compares to what the Klitschkos are doing right now. And yes I have to mention both, because they are tag teaming the division. Vitali has beaten the best available opposition that his brother hadn't already demolished. You can argue about Briggs and Sosnowski, but the other so called top fighters declined offers before those fights were made. Undefeated records are getting snatched and the division is frozen in fear. People want to punish Vitali for who wasn't available to him. I get your point about who is on his resume, but from my POV he has overachieved in his era. I have no problem with anyone who thinks different.

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                #57
                Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                So the way someone dominated an opponent has nothing to do with it? Isn't that why all the Tyson nuthuggers are calling him an ATG? Cause he knocked out a bunch of cans and old men in the first round? But then got KTFO every time he stepped up?

                So you are saying a high KO% doesn't factor at all? Isn't that why Foreman is rated so highly because of his big punch?
                I don't consider Tyson an ATG.... Well..... Maybe borderline, just cuz of his wins and accomplishments. Do you know that Tyson has more wins against top 10 HWs than Vitaly does?

                Foreman IMO was rated highly do to what he did in the 70's and how much he accomplished at such and advanced age in the 90's. 2 of the best HW eras of all time. Think about it.

                Is not so much KO% ratio IMO.

                If that was the case wouldn't Valero be considered an ATG?

                Really think about it?

                Is wins and who and when you beat them.

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                  #58
                  "I want to let the world know I'm a ******ed Klitschko nuthugger.'' - Wladischamp

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by IIG
                    Nothing about them compare to me. Really nothing compares to what the Klitschkos are doing right now. And yes I have to mention both, because they are tag teaming the division. Vitali has beaten the best available opposition that his brother hadn't already demolished. You can argue about Briggs and Sosnowski, but the other so called top fighters declined offers before those fights were made. Undefeated records are getting snatched and the division is frozen in fear. People want to punish Vitali for who wasn't available to him. I get your point about who is on his resume, but from my POV he has overachieved in his era. I have no problem with anyone who thinks different.
                    No you can't mentioned both.

                    You can't give Vitaly credit for Wlad wins and accomplishments. It is really ridiculous to do so.

                    Why does Wlad have a HOF resume and not Vitaly? They fought in the same era. So how did Vitaly not have the opportunity yet Wlad did?

                    No look at Vitaly wins, and compare them to the ones I mentioned. Is not an insult.

                    To give Vitaly credit for what his bro is doing is really ridiculous.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Nonsense.

                      Utter d*ck-riding nonsense.
                      Leon Spinks should be a HOF ATG just cuz of his win over a past prime Ali and what Michael Spinks accomplished.

                      Put the Ruelas brothers resume together. Then both can get in the HOF.

                      Bobby Pacquiao is a HOF'er cuz we can put his resume together with his brother Manny.

                      And, all you need now is a high KO% to be a HOF'er.

                      Is just ridiculous.

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