Excellent Article About the Klitschkos

[boxingking500]

Oh yeah, I saw that fight where Derpie Hyde gave Holyfield brain damage in! I also saw the one where Axel Schulz KOed Mike Tyson and Lennox lewis, Schulz would have been a ATG if Wlad hadn't killed him....Oh wait....Your just a ****tard. The Klitschkos fought fighters that were less than nothing in the 90s...Get off their nuttsacks...

well get off there nutsacks, when you start showing respect to them

[WladIsTheChamp]

Basically the HARDEST opponents for the Klits to fight are still weaker than the EASIEST that Ali,Holmes,Tyson,Lewis, Foreman, etc had to fight when they were champion...48? year old George Foreman beat Prime Shannon Briggs the same way Vitali beat old over the hill Briggs, just figured I would say that little fact....

Right.... so Ali's 180 and 177 pound opponents and Cleveland Williams, a guy who was shot in the gut six month prior and had ten feet of intestines removed plus partial paralysis in his left leg, are better than anything Wlad and Vitaly fought? So Tyson getting KTFO by Buster Douglas is any better than Wlad loosing against Purrity? So Lewis getting layed out cold by Rahman and McCall is better than Vitaly loosing by injury only? GTFO...you are clearly a hater that refuses to look at the facts.

[IIG]

Really a shoe in? With his best wins being Peter, Sanders, Arreola, Gomez, and Johnson? That is a shoe in first ballot?

How are those wins HOF material.

I guess lets just keep on watering down the HOF.

Lets just put damn near every title holder in the HOF. Forget about beating the best just holding a title long enough should get you in.

Omar Narvaez is a shoe in.

Sven Ottke shoe in

Dariusz M shoe in.

These names you are throwing around in comparison to Vitali are insulting, but comical. Carnera and Ottke? The man has taken on anyone who dares make themself available, and for the most part has dominated. I can't even take anything away from his losses, even though both were legit. I think he'd be first ballot if he stopped today, but maybe you're right and I'm wrong.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Oh yeah, I saw that fight where Derpie Hyde gave Holyfield brain damage in! I also saw the one where Axel Schulz KOed Mike Tyson and Lennox lewis, Schulz would have been a ATG if Wlad hadn't killed him....Oh wait....Your just a ****tard. The Klitschkos fought fighters that were less than nothing in the 90s...Get off their nuttsacks...

You clearly look at past fighters through rosy tinted glass yet harshly judge anything the Kltischkos do. Getting 60% KO ratio against 180 and 177 pound guys when you are 6'3" 220 (as in the case of Ali) is nothing to write home about. Neither is getting layed out cold by Rahman and crackhead (he is really a crackhead) McCall. Nor is having a prime consisting of 1.5 years before having it ended by Buster Douglas.

[XionComrade]

So Wlad vs Byrd I was not during Byrd's prime? Byrd beat Holyfield in case you forgot.

Oh you ****** nutthugger! Yeah I guess he beat the same Holyfield that had went through two freaking heart attacks and a world of wars...And lost to James Toney...Thank you for bringing that up, Byrd's BEST win was against Evander when he was 1/4 the fighter he was in his prime, thank you for shooting yourself down because we are tired of doing it! Evander Holyfield has garnered more respect and accomplished more than BOTH Klitschkos combined. Prove me wrong! And guess what, he isn't even a natural heavyweight!

I bet your first attempt to debunk me will be to point out that Rid**** Bowe lost/was losing to Andrew Golota?

George Foreman became heavyweight Champion KOing Frazier in 2 round, Frazier being a better fighter than ANYONE who has ever faced either Klit. Prove me Wrong. George Foreman then continued to fight against the likes of Ron Lyle, Muhammad Ali, and Jimmy Young...All better fighters than ANYONE on either Klit resume, and Ron Lyle the harder hitter of anyone legitimate fighting today! George Foreman then retired for 10 YEARS and came back to win the title, far far past his prime in a much tougher division, and with a much better resume, than either Klitschko.

During Foreman's comeback be DESTROYED Gerry Cooney, Bert Cooper, Moorer, and PRIME Shannon Briggs. He beat Qawi, Alex Stewart, Schulz, Savarese. And gave Evander and Morrison one of the toughest fights of their careers!

[jrosales13]

So Wlad vs Byrd I was not during Byrd's prime? Byrd beat Holyfield in case you forgot.

That's why I find these hater arguments hilarious, you keep moving the goal posts and never answer the questions:

Hater: "Who did they beat? They are fighting in a **** era, their opponents are bums"
Bros Fan: "They fought in the 90s, the same era Holyfield, Lewis, and Tyson fought in, and destroyed some of the same guys they beat or that beat them. Are you considering the 90s to be a crappy era then? If so, where does that put Tyson, Holyfield, and Lewis?"
Hater - No Answer to the questions and moves the goal post: "Well it doesn't matter if they beat the same guys, those guys weren't the same guys."
Bros Fan - "Oh so, you are saying you will not give Wlad credit for beating an older Mercer yet Tyson is an ATG for beating a shot old LHW Spinks and shot to hell Holmes? What about Lewis going full 12 with guys like Marovic? Or Mike getting KTFO by Buster Douglas"
Hater - "Oh 40 year old Holmes was still good but 40 year old Mercer wasn't. Marovic was better than anything on Vitaly's record. Buster's Mom died so he was Superman that night and besided, that wasn't Tyson's prime, his prime lasted only 1.5 years, he was already on the decline then."

Keep hatin... but you still haven't answered my question, how many HW Champs in the history of boxing accomplished what Vitaly accomplished?

WTF are you talking about? Did you get lost? Are you confused to which bro we are talking about?

Tell me when I said Wlad didn't beat a prime Byrd? I am not even discrediting Wlad resume here. Yes Wlad beat a prime Byrd and is a HOF fighter.

Now can we get back to my post and points about Vitaly.

In case you didn't know they're 2 seperate fighters with 2 seperate resumes and accomplishments.

[IMDAZED]

Please stop pretending the brothers are one and the same. They aren't. One is a HOF'er. The other is nothing but a paper champ. Thank you.

[jrosales13]

Oh you ****** nutthugger! Yeah I guess he beat the same Holyfield that had went through two freaking heart attacks and a world of wars...And lost to James Toney...Thank you for bringing that up, Byrd's BEST win was against Evander when he was 1/4 the fighter he was in his prime, thank you for shooting yourself down because we are tired of doing it! Evander Holyfield has garnered more respect and accomplished more than BOTH Klitschkos combined. Prove me wrong! And guess what, he isn't even a natural heavyweight!

I bet your first attempt to debunk me will be to point out that Rid**** Bowe lost/was losing to Andrew Golota?

George Foreman became heavyweight Champion KOing Frazier in 2 round, Frazier being a better fighter than ANYONE who has ever faced either Klit. Prove me Wrong. George Foreman then continued to fight against the likes of Ron Lyle, Muhammad Ali, and Jimmy Young...All better fighters than ANYONE on either Klit resume, and Ron Lyle the harder hitter of anyone legitimate fighting today! George Foreman then retired for 10 YEARS and came back to win the title, far far past his prime in a much tougher division, and with a much better resume, than either Klitschko.

During Foreman's comeback be DESTROYED Gerry Cooney, Bert Cooper, Moorer, and PRIME Shannon Briggs. He beat Qawi, Alex Stewart, Schulz, Savarese. And gave Evander and Morrison one of the toughest fights of their careers!

Byrd was a top HW with pretty good wins. Credit to Wlad for that fight he won it legit.

Byrd is a better fighter than any of Vitaly WINS, and I said WINS.

Byrd>Sanders, Arreola, Peter, Gomez, and Johnson.

[jrosales13]

You clearly look at past fighters through rosy tinted glass yet harshly judge anything the Kltischkos do. Getting 60% KO ratio against 180 and 177 pound guys when you are 6'3" 220 (as in the case of Ali) is nothing to write home about. Neither is getting layed out cold by Rahman and crackhead (he is really a crackhead) McCall. Nor is having a prime consisting of 1.5 years before having it ended by Buster Douglas.

How does KO% ratio fall into HOF status?

If that is the case Edwin Valero with his 100% KO ratio is not only a HOF'er but P4P the GOAT.

SRR has nothing on Valero.

WTF are we talking about here?

[jrosales13]

These names you are throwing around in comparison to Vitali are insulting, but comical. Carnera and Ottke? The man has taken on anyone who dares make themself available, and for the most part has dominated. I can't even take anything away from his losses, even though both were legit. I think he'd be first ballot if he stopped today, but maybe you're right and I'm wrong.

Tell me how those names are "insulting" when you compare their best wins with Vitaly best wins?