Manny Pacquiao takes on all comers, really?

[McFearless]

Mosley was the #1 ranked Welterweight.

Marquez was #2 pound for pound.

You failed.

Mosley fight was understandable

But that #2 P4P Marquez argument kinda don't make sense as they're not in the same weight class

So... Only half a fail lol

[kuhl_jackman]

Pac jumped up in weight cause he was running scared from the challenges in the 130lbs division.
Humberto Soto, Edwin Valero, Joan Guzman and Marquez were there at 130lbs with Pac, so Pac jumped to 135lbs to fight c-level paper champion David Diaz, rather than face the Soto, Valero, Guzman, Marquez.

Then DelaHoya helped Pac avoid those challenger by giving him a FIXED FIGHT at 147lbs against himself (Oscar).

Pac fought a shot, weight-drained Cotto, with EPO Steroids/Hormones in his(Pac)'s system.

Then Oscar arranged another FIXED FIGHT with Clottey, and now has another FIXED FIGHT with Margarito.

what a resume.

What a MORON? tsk tsk

[ALG United]

What's good peeps? I'm new to the scene, I enjoy seeing some of the opinions on the board so now I've decided to post myself. Let me start by saying first and foremost I'm a huge boxing fan as well as a Floyd Mayweather fan, yes u can actually be both Anyway, I think that Floyd deserves some crticism, but he takes WAY 2 much IMO, and I'm not talking about his legal issues, nobody who wasn't involved really knows what went down. I'm talking about what goes down strictly in the ring, particularly as far as oppostion.

Manny Pacquiao is a tremendous fighter, probably the best offensive fighter in the sport 2day. However, his competition since his move up to welterweight leaves a lot to be desired. Manny has fought Oscar (busted up by freaking Steve Forbes previous fight), Ricky Hatton (badly koncked out by Floyd before fighting Manny), Miguel Cotto (took savage beating by Margarito before fighting Manny), Joshua Clottey (who just lost to Cotto before fighting Manny), and now he's fighting Margarito (who just took a massive ass whoopin from Shane). Hmmmmmm.....it seems there's a pattern here. How the hell can anybody say Pacquiao has faced top competition as of late? This is an absolute joke

People bash Floyd's competition, but Manny's aint any better. Why does he continue to fight slow come forward battered fighters with limited boxing skills? Why the hell doesn't Manny just fight JMM again? I don't care what weight the fight is at, they have unfinished business, everybody knows Pacman vs. JMM 3 would be an extremely lucrative bout. If Manny can spark JMM out so quickly at the higher weights he should just prove it. At least Floyd manned up and proved he could beat Castillo decisively. There are other legit fights out there for Manny such as Berto, the winner of Alexnder vs. Bradley, the winner of Martinez vs Williams, hell even Amir Khan (if he gets past Maidana). I'm sick and tired of Manny being praised for fighting fighters coming off SEVERE ass whoppins. Manny should stop hiding behind Roach and Arum and fight some legitimate competition, whether he fights Floyd or not. Now he's prolly gonna fight Mosley next or Cotto Why do so many of u choose to ignore the facts and heap all this praise on Manny? This is a legitimate question that I want legitimate answers to........

You said your a boxing fan but you clearly doesn't know anything about the sport, Manny KO'd Ricky after Ricky won over Lazcano and TKO'd Malignaggi, Manny TKO'd Cotto after Miguel TKO'd Jennings and won over Clottey, Manny won over Clottey when Clottey was on a winning streak since 2007 prior to his split decision to Cotto, and Manny retired Oscar who prior TKO'd Mayorga, had a split decision over Floyd and then won over Forbes. So your argument of Manny taking on just losing fighters are baseless and immature. Come to think of it, Ali won to Frazier the first time when Frazier where knocked down 3 times by Foreman the previous fight, while Ray Leonard, Duran, Hearns and Hagler, each have losses and wins fighting each other in their particular career but that doesn't make their legacy even lesser... Because by your analogy, Floyd should be criticized more for cherrypicking his opponents, Floyd took on Oscar when Oscar was KO'd by Hopkins just 2 fights ago, Floyd took on Baldomir who has 9 losses and 6 draws already in his record, Floyd took on Judah who prior to that fight already took a beating from Baldomir, Floyd fought Mitchell who was previously KO'd by Tszyu just 2 fights ago and Floyd fought Gatti at the twilight of his career, who already had 6 losses and was getting KO'd by Manfredy and Oscar.. And now you want Manny to fight JMM again, then if Manny won that fight you will then say that he just beat a guy that Floyd already whooped!!! WTF!!!

[FerdinandMarcos]

Mosley fight was understandable

But that #2 P4P Marquez argument kinda don't make sense as they're not in the same weight class

So... Only half a fail lol

JMM was a tune-up after 2 years away.

At least he didn't fight Micheal Jennings or Alphonso Gomez.

That's the kind of trash Cotto calls a tuneup.


At least he didn't fight SHOT LIGHTWEIGHTS Golden Johnson or Manuel Gomez.

That's the kind of rubbish Margarito calls a tuneup.

[ADP02]

Berto, Khan, Marquez fight anybody on a 2 or 3 fight winning streak for crying out loud. He's being a buster fighting guys coming off massive ass whopins!

You might have missed it but Manny tried to get Floyd but Floyd refused to fight Manny and preferred to go on vacation this year. You can't blame Manny on this one buddy. That is all that needs to be said!!!

Manny can only fight one fight at a time. He had been trying to get the fight with Floyd for a year now. Since that didn't happen, they scrambled and picked what was available from Arum's stable.

In all honesty, you think that if Manny would have beat those guys you mentioned it would have made you or other Floyd fans happy? If he beat Berto, people would have said, so what, he looked bad in his previous fight. If he beat Khan, they would have said, so what he had no chin and was too green. If he beat up Marquez, they would have said, Marquez is too old now.

I think Berto and Khan would be better in the future AFTER they win against some credible opponents. Marquez, he is really getting older and is not as resilient at 140. Plus, I think Manny would KO him for sure this time.

[McFearless]

JMM was a tune-up after 2 years away.

At least he didn't fight Micheal Jennings or Alphonso Gomez.

That's the kind of trash Cotto calls a tuneup.


At least he didn't fight SHOT LIGHTWEIGHTS Golden Johnson or Manuel Gomez.

That's the kind of rubbish Margarito calls a tuneup.

So because he's a tuneup it's cool to fight a lightweight? Even though he was #2 p4p It doesn't matter.
Cotto was coming off a bad loss and they set that up as a confidence builder. At least the guy was at his weight... A tuneup as well no?
Margs.. Yeah that's beyond explanation.

[$tate of Mind]

You said your a boxing fan but you clearly doesn't know anything about the sport, Manny KO'd Ricky after Ricky won over Lazcano and TKO'd Malignaggi, Manny TKO'd Cotto after Miguel TKO'd Jennings and won over Clottey, Manny won over Clottey when Clottey was on a winning streak since 2007 prior to his split decision to Cotto, and Manny retired Oscar who prior TKO'd Mayorga, had a split decision over Floyd and then won over Forbes. So your argument of Manny taking on just losing fighters are baseless and immature. Come to think of it, Ali won to Frazier the first time when Frazier where knocked down 3 times by Foreman the previous fight, while Ray Leonard, Duran, Hearns and Hagler, each have losses and wins fighting each other in their particular career but that doesn't make their legacy even lesser... Because by your analogy, Floyd should be criticized more for cherrypicking his opponents, Floyd took on Oscar when Oscar was KO'd by Hopkins just 2 fights ago, Floyd took on Baldomir who has 9 losses and 6 draws already in his record, Floyd took on Judah who prior to that fight already took a beating from Baldomir, Floyd fought Mitchell who was previously KO'd by Tszyu just 2 fights ago and Floyd fought Gatti at the twilight of his career, who already had 6 losses and was getting KO'd by Manfredy and Oscar.. And now you want Manny to fight JMM again, then if Manny won that fight you will then say that he just beat a guy that. Floyd already whooped!!! WTF!!!

Check it out bro, I already stated that Floyd deserves criticism. My point is I don't understand why Manny gets all this credit for fighting fighters who were recently beaten down badly. A lot of people act like Pac is facing the biggest toughest obstacles out there, and that is flat out laughable! Why won't fight Martinez or Williams? Why doesn't Pac fight a fighter with top notch boxing skills? IMO Manny's opposition hasn't been any better than Floyd's, yet he gets all this praise and Floyd is labeled a 'ducker'. I don't care what any of u say Pacman's recent opposition is not what its made out to be and he deserves criticism.

[Ryannn]

Check it out bro, I already stated that Floyd deserves criticism. My point is I don't understand why Manny gets all this credit for fighting fighters who were recently beaten down badly. A lot of people act like Pac is facing the biggest toughest obstacles out there, and that is flat out laughable! Why won't fight Martinez or Williams? Why doesn't Pac fight a fighter with top notch boxing skills? IMO Manny's opposition hasn't been any better than Floyd's, yet he gets all this praise and Floyd is labeled a 'ducker'. I don't care what any of u say Pacman's recent opposition is not what its made out to be and he deserves criticism.

yeah, pacquiao is a ***** for not fighting middleweights, when he himself isn't even a full-blown welterweight

[ALG United]

Check it out bro, I already stated that Floyd deserves criticism. My point is I don't understand why Manny gets all this credit for fighting fighters who were recently beaten down badly. A lot of people act like Pac is facing the biggest toughest obstacles out there, and that is flat out laughable! Why won't fight Martinez or Williams? Why doesn't Pac fight a fighter with top notch boxing skills? IMO Manny's opposition hasn't been any better than Floyd's, yet he gets all this praise and Floyd is labeled a 'ducker'. I don't care what any of u say Pacman's recent opposition is not what its made out to be and he deserves criticism.

Let's just say, for arguement's sake that Floyd and Manny fought opponents of equal footing, Manny will still have the edge in praise because by comparison Floyd has the better skills between the two and has the advantages both in height and reach. So by example, if both of them decided to fight Paul Williams, even if both of them wins against Paul, Manny will be praised more for achieving what seems to be impossible.. Get my drift man, that's why Manny gets all the praises because in most of his fights, before the first bell rang you are still unsure on who will be victorious, while with Floyd you get the feeling that he chose his opponents for a sure win...

[$tate of Mind]

yeah, pacquiao is a ***** for not fighting middleweights, when he himself isn't even a full-blown welterweight

So are u one of those people who feel that Floyd should fight Martinez or Williams? If Floyd is criticized for not fighting Martinez and Williams Manny should be criticized as well. Why is Floyd criticized for saying Miguel Cotto lives" to far" but Manny isn't criticized for saying Yuri Foreman is "to tall"? Why is Floyd accused of ducking Cotto, Margarito, etc. but Manny isn't accused of ducking Juan Diaz or Nate Campbell? I just don't understand the double standard.