Comments Thread For: Froch Won't Speculate, But Hints Doubt on Dirrell's Story

[SplitSecond]

The point is, he wouldn't have fought for at least 5 of those 7 months, anyway, regardless of any "neurological problem". So citing that 5 month ring absence to support the "neurological problem" story doesn't make much sense.


If the problems are ongoing, if they are an issue right now, I sincerely doubt they will be resolved and cleared up in such a speedy time that a fight could be selected and scheduled to take place within 6 months of last week or this week (the present) and for Andre to be properly prepared for it with all the training he's supposedly missed.

That's a lot to happen in a very short amount of time.

hmm??
@bold, that's not relevant, stick with the debate, you're saying that he can't possible fight within six months(starting from last week- present) or else it proves he is lying about his condition because the time span is too short for him to recover, select, schedule and fight
and that's true to a degree but im sayin dont forget that he has also been having these issues for the past 7 months and tho he may still not be well today he could be at the tail-end of the issue, so he could recover, and select within 6 months but fighting would maybe be a little su****ious


man, you've confused me with this last post, and i've also slightly confused myself with my post, but i think i got across my point

[-PANDA-]

how legit is froch's back injury?

promotors need to make these medical reports public...panda knows theyre confidential but they can at least partially show evidence provided in the medical documents

dirrell's fan base is suffering and shaw is going to have a hard time getting dirrell back on the map...

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

hmm??
@bold, that's not relevant, stick with the debate

It's relevant because you made an argument of it.


Within 6 months of his camp's announcement of a "neurological problem". Get it? Hell, I'd say a year, but 6 months to be kind.


There is a natural waiting period of months between fights, anyway. The period between Dirrell-Abraham and the scheduled dates for Ward-Dirrell doesn't count for anything in this debate. Get it?




You're the one confusing the debate. Dirrell's ongoing problems are still present as of now apparently. It's highly unlikely he would see ring-time anytime soon were that the case.

[SplitSecond]

i got what you were sayin in that bolded part, just that it didn't make much sense or maybe it was because the rebuttal was so bad i just thought i was missing the point

you were/are basically saying that because he was'nt gonna fight for atleast 4-5 months anyway, the post-concussive issue could'nt possibly be true and it doesn't help either side prove anything.

which im just not getting how and why not
despite him mentioning it 3 weeks after the fight?

just because his camp mentioned it a week ago means the problem only started a week ago? and that he now has to wait 6 months or else you'll think he's faking?

discombobulation

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

you were/are basically saying that because he was'nt gonna fight for atleast 4-5 months anyway, the post-concussive issue could'nt possibly be true and it doesn't help either side prove anything.

No, that's not what I'm saying.



Although, the unbolded is true, that it doesn't help either side prove anything.

[SplitSecond]

right, anyway, i THINK we agree on somethin, that if he "fights" within 6 months it's su****ious, but i think recovering within 6 months is to be expected

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Yeah, the gist was just,

you popped up and said 'well he already hasn't fought for 6 months, ner-ner!'. He wouldn't have fought for that period, anyway, so I didn't get your point.

He still has a "neurological problem" as of now, apparently, and a LOT of processes would have to happen in a relatively very short space of time for him to be fighting inside the next 6 months.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

righbut i think recovering within 6 months is to be expected

Yeah, of course.



Being cleared by a doctor, being prepared to fight and having a bout scheduled to take place within the next 6 months (give or take) is a whole other matter.

[throbk1974]

if he can't take a hit, he might as well just retire now, to prevent future injuries. maybe he can work his loud mouthed brother's corner???

[BetterCallSaul]

How much time is needed to recover from neurological damage? I was always led to believe that most brain injuries are permanent and cause long term impairment of conscious functioning.

As Dirrell wasn't suffering from concussion in the days and months following the fight, and his symptoms were only flagged up during the protracted negotiations with Ward, it can easily be assumed that something fishy is going on.

In my opinion, if Dirrell does indeed have neurological issues, he needs to retire. Due to the severe nature of brain damage and injury, I would be very surprised if he fought within the next 12 months, if at all.