Comments Thread For: Victor Ortiz vs Lamont Peterson Set For December 11

[Phenom]

I don't recall any situation where body shots lost a fight for Ortiz. The punches that really did Ortiz in for the Maidana fight were to the head.

And it's debatable whether this new Ortiz can take pressure, but Peterson ain't a guy he needs to worry about that much when it comes to pressure. His punching power is arguably right on par with Bradley's and his chin is questionable. I don't think pressuring a guy that can KO u easily is the smart strategy.

true I think its going to be the other way where Ortiz going "vicious" jump on him early and not respect his power. I see another impressive KO for Ortiz and that should but him in the mix for the Alexander vs Bradley winner or at least maidana rematch

[Rome-By-Ko]

I don't recall any situation where body shots lost a fight for Ortiz. The punches that really did Ortiz in for the Maidana fight were to the head.

And it's debatable whether this new Ortiz can take pressure, but Peterson ain't a guy he needs to worry about that much when it comes to pressure. His punching power is arguably right on par with Bradley's and his chin is questionable. I don't think pressuring a guy that can KO u easily is the smart strategy.

Thing is I'm not talking bout a strategy,I'm talking bout a fight..Sometimes a fight breaks out and the better man wins..I don't think anybody knows much about the new Ortiz so it's fair to say that pressure would still bother Ortiz being the fact he has not been in with a good fighter since Maidana..Watch the Maidana Ortiz fight again the body shots was what started everything(Poor Khan)then to the head,the last punch Maidana landed was too the body..Peterson is a better fighter then you giving him credit for and like I already said Bradley has enough power to keep ya honest..Meaning you do not want to take his punches all night..IMO it's foolish to think Ortiz win's this fight easy..

[Rome-By-Ko]

They are very similar in that respect, as are a HUGE number of other fighters that I could mention.

This is funny topic to me.

Having more power than your opponent has NEVER been a prerequisite to winning a boxing match.

You only need to have enough power to keep your opponent honest and to stop him from walking through your punches, then it comes down to skills.

Luckily for feather-fisted Bradley and Mayweather that they box OK

True story..Preach on brother..

[HandSpeed303]

Well, judging by the comments from page 1 to 11...I think I will be putting my E-Money on Peterson (underdog)...

Didn't know this many people had no respect for him...


BTW: What was with that overrated/hypejob comment (can't remember who said it)? So a fighter with one loss, and that loss happens to be to the number 1 ranked fighter in the division, the fighter gets down early in the fight, still fights on to make it a very good above average effort (just wasn't the better fighter that night)...That fighter is a overrated hype job?...Ooooooookay....

[the_ilest]

Well, judging by the comments from page 1 to 11...I think I will be putting my E-Money on Peterson (underdog)...

Didn't know this many people had no respect for him...


BTW: What was with that overrated/hypejob comment (can't remember who said it)? So a fighter with one loss, and that loss happens to be to the number 1 ranked fighter in the division, the fighter gets down early in the fight, still fights on to make it a very good above average effort (just wasn't the better fighter that night)...That fighter is a overrated hype job?...Ooooooookay....

yeah, thats what i'm saying too. people need to cut that **** with calling boxers hype jobs cause in the end the so called hype jobs prove people wrong. aka khan, or whom ever choose. hype jobs always prove people wrong, in most cases.

[JDezi4]

Thing is I'm not talking bout a strategy,I'm talking bout a fight..Sometimes a fight breaks out and the better man wins..I don't think anybody knows much about the new Ortiz so it's fair to say that pressure would still bother Ortiz being the fact he has not been in with a good fighter since Maidana..Watch the Maidana Ortiz fight again the body shots was what started everything(Poor Khan)then to the head,the last punch Maidana landed was too the body..Peterson is a better fighter then you giving him credit for and like I already said Bradley has enough power to keep ya honest..Meaning you do not want to take his punches all night..IMO it's foolish to think Ortiz win's this fight easy..

I don't think it's too foolish simply becuz of this; I'm sure we both agree Ortiz his much much harder than Bradley. It doesn't really matter how hard Bradley hits, the fact is Ortiz hits much much harder. (Arguably) Second only to Maidana in the division. The fact that Bradley stunned him just goes to show Ortiz could too, plus more. And the fact that he likes to fight on the inside shows he will be there for Ortiz to hit.

And about Ortiz not being able to take pressure, maybe not long periods of it, but a lot of people forget that Ortiz was kicking Maidana's ass for most of that fight. Maidana, who hits much harder than most everyone in the division (possibly other than Ortiz), was getting out fought for about 4 rounds. And really didn't start crumbling under the pressure until after he got cut. That's what people don't seem to remember.

[AKATheMack]

I was bummed Ortiz wasnt fighting Kotelnik, but this is just as good. Ortiz is going to show everyone why hes the future.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I don't think it's too foolish simply becuz of this; I'm sure we both agree Ortiz his much much harder than Bradley. It doesn't really matter how hard Bradley hits, the fact is Ortiz hits much much harder. (Arguably) Second only to Maidana in the division. The fact that Bradley stunned him just goes to show Ortiz could too, plus more. And the fact that he likes to fight on the inside shows he will be there for Ortiz to hit.

And about Ortiz not being able to take pressure, maybe not long periods of it, but a lot of people forget that Ortiz was kicking Maidana's ass for most of that fight. Maidana, who hits much harder than most everyone in the division (possibly other than Ortiz), was getting out fought for about 4 rounds. And really didn't start crumbling under the pressure until after he got cut. That's what people don't seem to remember.

1.Ortiz was not kicking Maidana's ass it was a pretty even fight up until Ortiz quit..

2.Why it would be foolish to think Ortiz wins easy is because Ortiz quit in a fight he could have won had he stay in it,but did not have the heart..Peterson fought and try'ed his hardest to win a fight he was totally out skilled in..Not once in that fight did peterson give up..

3.I'm not saying Peterson will win but I'm saying he is a live dog..Power helps but it's not the only thing needed to win fights..I believe if Ortiz could get past Peterson it will speak in volume cause I think he could beat a few top fighters at this weight..

[Pullcounter]

1.Ortiz was not kicking Maidana's ass it was a pretty even fight up until Ortiz quit..

2.Why it would be foolish to think Ortiz wins easy is because Ortiz quit in a fight he could have won had he stay in it,but did not have the heart..Peterson fought and try'ed his hardest to win a fight he was totally out skilled in..Not once in that fight did peterson give up..

3.I'm not saying Peterson will win but I'm saying he is a live dog..Power helps but it's not the only thing needed to win fights..I believe if Ortiz could get past Peterson it will speak in volume cause I think he could beat a few top fighters at this weight..

peterson will get sparked out if ortiz has the balls to fight like pac instead of run like floyd. peterson was rocked on multiple occasions by featherfisted timmah bradley. if ortiz stops running long enough to put enough leverage into his punches, he should be able to KO peterson.

[JDezi4]

1.Ortiz was not kicking Maidana's ass it was a pretty even fight up until Ortiz quit..

2.Why it would be foolish to think Ortiz wins easy is because Ortiz quit in a fight he could have won had he stay in it,but did not have the heart..Peterson fought and try'ed his hardest to win a fight he was totally out skilled in..Not once in that fight did peterson give up..

3.I'm not saying Peterson will win but I'm saying he is a live dog..Power helps but it's not the only thing needed to win fights..I believe if Ortiz could get past Peterson it will speak in volume cause I think he could beat a few top fighters at this weight..

Ortiz quit more or less becuz if not, he was likely on his way to getting KO'd. After the cut, it was all Maidana. It wasn't like Ortiz just gave up at a certain point in the fight at complete random. The cut clearly bothered him, from there he was just getting hit flush, and had little if any offense in return, than he quit. And at the point when he quit, one eye was cut, the other was swollen almost shut. In a matter of speaking, he was blind. Now, IDK if this is for the reason, cuz I'm not him. But from that it's a little easier to understand quitting. Lots of people, in fact, most people, just think there was a point in the fight where Ortiz just gave up, but he had good reasons from what I saw: taking flush shots, blind in both eyes, no longer able to administer affective offense.

The point of me explaining that is just to point out, it's not just any little bit of pressure that will cause Ortiz to quit. Everything was going wrong for him in that fight at the point he quit. Lamont Peterson doesn't have anywhere near Maidana's power, so Ortiz should be able to handle anything dishes while administering the pressure.

And the reason why it's not foolish to say the word EASY is becuz simply put (based off of the whole power analysis in my last comment) Ortiz could catch Peterson in the first round and knock him out. It's a 50% chance or more that Ortiz knocks Peterson out with any punch he lands. And that could easily happen in the first round. That's where the word EASY comes in.

I'm so glad I don't get a minimum of 500 characters so I can really say what I want to say