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  • Dave Rado
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    #41
    Originally posted by Siggy
    lol. i love how you keep pushing that position. its true though.
    either he admits he's a perpetrating, lying ass btch or he saves himself and GTFO the boxing game.

    his team should just STFU. lets see how big of a hole they dig for andre.
    That's completely irrational and is based on the fact you don't like the guy. Post concussive syndrome is a temporary condition from which most people make a complete recovery. There's no reason for him not to fight again, although he obviously shouldn't even think about training until he's recovered completely.

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    • Dave Rado
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      #42
      Originally posted by Siggy
      that is not the point, if a single shot like that is enough to do neurological damage then he will always be at risk when he steps into the ring. maybe hes just not built to take a punch.
      A punch you don't expect often does more damage than one you do, plus the way his head spun right round may have done more damage than the punch itself.

      Michael Watson could certainly take a punch better than most fighters, and yet one Eubank punch sent him into a coma, and Eubank was far from being a knock-out artist. But it was the way Watson landed that did the damage and the fact that he wasn't expecting the punch, because he'd just scored a knock-down himself.

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      • Siggy
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        #43
        Originally posted by Dave Rado
        That's completely irrational and is based on the fact you don't like the guy. Post concussive syndrome is a temporary condition from which most people make a complete recovery. There's no reason for him not to fight again, although he obviously shouldn't even think about training until he's recovered completely.
        you mustve missed the part where he was released from the hospital the night of the fight with a clean bill of health.
        that means NO concussion.
        keep trying
        and for the record, i dont care for dirrell either way. i just think his actions that night were extremely dubious. now theyre bringing that stuff up to excuse him.

        this sums up my reaction to this whole situation

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        • Dave Rado
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          #44
          Originally posted by Siggy
          you mustve missed the part where he was released from the hospital the night of the fight with a clean bill of health.
          that means NO concussion.
          keep trying
          and for the record, i dont care for dirrell either way. i just think his actions that night were extremely dubious. now theyre bringing that stuff up to excuse him.

          this sums up my reaction to this whole situation
          http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...&postcount=109
          Hatton was also released from hospital after only 2 hours with a clean bill of health following his loss to Pacquiao, but he was out cold for more than a minute in the ring. Ditto Simon Brown after his loss to Petteway (and by the way Brown continued to throw punches while unconscious on the ground). It just means he was not suffering from concussion when in hospital - it does not mean he wasn't temporarily concussed in the ring; and it also doesn't preclude him from subsequently suffering symptoms of post-concussive syndrome, which frequently don't manifest for a considerable time (and which can appear to be relatively mild in any case - occasional dizzy spells and headaches).

          Regarding your other post, are you really dis*****g that he's done no training and that his weight has ballooned? Because that should be easy for any journalist to verify or disprove.
          Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-10-2010, 03:53 AM.

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          • Siggy
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            #45
            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            Hatton was also released from hospital after only 2 hours with a clean bill of health following his loss to Pacquiao, but he was out cold for more than a minute in the ring. Ditto Simon Brown. It just means he was not suffering from concussion when in hospital - it does not mean he wasn't temporarily concussed in the ring; and it also doesn't preclude him from subsequently suffering symptoms of post-concussive syndrome, which frequently don't manifest for a considerable time.
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            ruled out a POSSIBLE concussion.
            brain scans negative.

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            • Dave Rado
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              #46
              Originally posted by Siggy
              http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=26424
              ruled out a POSSIBLE concussion.
              brain scans negative.
              Same with Hatton.

              It means that he had no concussion or any other detectable brain trauma while he was in hospital. It doesn't mean he wasn't temporarily unconscious while in the ring.

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              • Siggy
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                #47
                Originally posted by Dave Rado

                Regarding your other post, are you really dis*****g that he's done no training and that his weight has ballooned? Because that should be easy for any journalist to verify or disprove.
                dis*****g? no. its entirely believable for a fighter to not train for a fight that he doesnt even want and has no venue.

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                • Siggy
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dave Rado
                  Same with Hatton.

                  It means that he had no concussion or any other detectable brain trauma while he was in hospital. It doesn't mean he wasn't temporarily unconscious while in the ring.
                  really? post a link that says that hatton passed tests to rule out a POSSIBLE concussion. you understand why i cap "possible," right?
                  they ran tests to see if a concussion had OCCURRED.
                  even with my untrained medical eye, im pretty sure hatton suffered a concussion....not so much with dirrell.

                  im done though, man. its late. keep fighting the fraudulent fight.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Siggy
                    really? post a link that says that hatton passed tests to rule out a POSSIBLE concussion. you understand why i cap "possible," right?
                    they ran tests to see if a concussion had OCCURRED.
                    even with my untrained medical eye, im pretty sure hatton suffered a concussion....not so much with dirrell.

                    im done though, man. its late. keep fighting the fraudulent fight.
                    There are no tests for whether a concussion has occurred in the past, only for whether there is any remaining concussion or detectable trauma.

                    As for Hatton, see here:

                    "After spending several minutes on his back in the ring, Hatton had to be taken to a hospital for a precautionary brain scan, which revealed no damage."
                    That's the same thing in different words as what the article about Dirrell said.

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                    • Bhopreign
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                      #50
                      I said back in October of 2009 that they wouldnt fight in this tournament, that by the time they were scheduled to fight that at least one would pull out, my reasons were there is too much more money to be made if they fought later. And that is exactly what is going to happen. Dirrell isnt pulling out because he's Ward's friend, its because they stand to make much more money when they fight down the line. Too bad Showtime couldnt see this coming, it was pretty obvious to me.

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