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  • Beater_of_ass
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    #101
    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
    Actually now that I think about it, this post is too stereotypical. Plenty of white fighters postpone fights and other races too with fake injuries and avoid tough fights. Examples of fighters that aren't black but are different nationalities that do one or the other are Bute, Calzaghe, Erdei, Pavlik who you mentioned but defended him, Donaire, Soto, Morel. And Thai fighters are infamous for it too. So just saying black fighters avoid tough fights and pull out with injuries is an idiotic thing to say now that I really stop to think about it.
    And this is why anything you say has no merit. You just flipped flopped within a 5 minute span.

    And I never said that no other fighters do this, but it almost like an epidemic with guys right now. Why Calzaghe is even in there IDK... because he fought RJJ and Hopkins when they were old? Calzaghe was a 34 year old man when he fought those guys too, so we can just shut up with that ****. But the difference is none of those guys signed up to a tournament and then pulled out ONCE the fight was made. I'm also not saying that you can't "duck" certain fighters as well, I understand why guys like Manny and Floyd aren't going to fight nobodies like Bradley, Alexander etc right now... but this situation is entirely different.

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      #102
      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
      You're a complete idiot. There is a MAJOR difference between scheduled and MADE you ass, why worry about a fight that isn't signed. Why would he avoid the whole tournament to not fight his friend? What better way to get exposure than be in 2 fights and when the time comes to fight your friend you blame it on injury, especially when its convenient to say it was a "brain injury" from your last fight when you were hit with a cheap shot.
      wait wait, you're obviously very angry and emotional right now, so im gonna try not to rile you up anymore as you might just end up loosening some teeth if you grind any harder

      but are you wondering why he's only bringing up this "oh dude, i've got dizzy spells and my head feels so light i think i could fly if i lost a couple pounds" crap after the ward fight was signed and ready?(despite no tickets or venue)

      just confirm to me if that's what you're sayin

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        #103
        For those who sit behind their computers, and having done nothing in boxing, saying Dirrell is fake and should retire says more about you than it does about Dirrell.

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          #104
          Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
          And this is why anything you say has no merit. You just flipped flopped within a 5 minute span.

          And I never said that no other fighters do this, but it almost like an epidemic with guys right now. Why Calzaghe is even in there IDK... because he fought RJJ and Hopkins when they were old? Calzaghe was a 34 year old man when he fought those guys too, so we can just shut up with that ****. But the difference is none of those guys signed up to a tournament and then pulled out ONCE the fight was made. I'm also not saying that you can't "duck" certain fighters as well, I understand why guys like Manny and Floyd aren't going to fight nobodies like Bradley, Alexander etc right now... but this situation is entirely different.
          I don't think Bradley and Alexander are beastly fighters, but the fact you called em nobodies just destroys your credibility. Yeah, I flip flopped. Because I actually think your post was kinda funny, but then I had to point out how wrong you looked when you said that it seems like black fighters are the only guys pricing themselves out and pulling out of tough fights with injuries. That's exactly how you worded your post, so don't back track. I'm not a black dude either.

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            #105
            Originally posted by timba
            If Dirrell has a brain injury which caused him to pull out of the Ward fight, then surely he has to retire permanently? If he is not fit to face Ward then he won't ever be fit to fight again in his life. Brain injuries don't just disappear, even after years. If he can't fight Ward, he has to retire. If he fights somewhere down the line, then I'm afraid he is telling porkies about the whole situation.
            actually PCS usually clears up after a year occassionally, if he's not feeling 100% yet, then he should by all means, not fight till his fully recovered, cuz another concussion before fully recovering from the last can mean death

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              #106
              Originally posted by .-|Akrobatic|-.
              wait wait, you're obviously very angry and emotional right now, so im gonna try not to rile you up anymore as you might just end up loosening some teeth if you grind any harder

              but are you wondering why he's only bringing up this "oh dude, i've got dizzy spells and my head feels so light i think i could fly if i lost a couple pounds" son after the ward fight was signed and ready?(despite no tickets or venue)
              I'm not wondering anything, he brought this up to avoid fighting his friend its that simple. What does venue or tickets have to do with anything, and if its true they didn't have a venue why did the fight get signed then, if the reason it didn't get made the first time was because they couldn't agree to a venue? Now its even more convenient that he was hurt, ESPECIALLY if they never agreed to a venue.

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #107
                Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                I don't think Bradley and Alexander are beastly fighters, but the fact you called em nobodies just destroys your credibility. Yeah, I flip flopped. Because I actually think your post was kinda funny, but then I had to point out how wrong you looked when you said that it seems like black fighters are the only guys pricing themselves out and pulling out of tough fights with injuries. That's exactly how you worded your post, so don't back track. I'm not a black dude either.
                I didn't mean they were nobodies as in had no ability I meant drawing power, they simply aren't on the same level. These two are, and should fight each other, I understand that its tough to fight your friend but 1 or 2 million would motivate me to beat the **** out of my friend for 36 minutes.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
                  I'm not wondering anything, he brought this up to avoid fighting his friend its that simple. What does venue or tickets have to do with anything, and if its true they didn't have a venue why did the fight get signed then, if the reason it didn't get made the first time was because they couldn't agree to a venue? Now its even more convenient that he was hurt, ESPECIALLY if they never agreed to a venue.
                  hey, im not saying he's NOT faking

                  just gimme a yes or no on my last post

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                    Actually now that I think about it, this post is too stereotypical. Plenty of white fighters postpone fights and other races too with fake injuries and avoid tough fights. Examples of fighters that aren't black but are different nationalities that do one or the other are Bute, Calzaghe, Erdei, Pavlik who you mentioned but defended him, Donaire, Soto, Morel. And Thai fighters are infamous for it too. So just saying black fighters avoid tough fights and pull out with injuries is an idiotic thing to say now that I really stop to think about it even though Berto and Dirrel like you said definitely fit that category. Williams shouldn't shoulder all the blame for the fight against Pavlik not happening, because Pavlik postponed it two different times.
                    none of those fighters pulled out because of neurological problems.

                    neurological don't ever really go away because the brain and nerves don't grow back they only get worse.

                    dirrelll should just quit boxing because sooner or later he will get hit in the head again and the neurological problems will return

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                    • SplitSecond
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      none of those fighters pulled out because of neurological problems.

                      neurological don't ever really go away because the brain and nerves don't grow back they only get worse.

                      dirrelll should just quit boxing because sooner or later he will get hit in the head again and the neurological problems will return
                      you sure? it'd suck it doesn't pass

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