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  • TheGreatA
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    #41
    Originally posted by paul750
    I agree that Tua has more names on his resume than Briggs. But even Tua in his absolute prime was severely limited. A Lewis or Klitschko would have always shut him out in every round, regardless of whether or not he was in his prime. Tua not only lacked height and reach, but also the ability to get inside and do damage against good boxers. Briggs is at least gifted physically, as well as being a huge puncher and has a certain craftiness that Tua doesn't have. They have both failed to live up to expectations, but at least Briggs can say he had Lewis in all sorts of trouble. Tua just had a long nightmare.

    Against tall boxers like Klitschko and Lewis, Briggs at least has an early chance, whereas Tua simply has none at all. The Barrett bout wouldn't have looked so bad if it had have been the Barrett of old - the solid gatekeeper. But it was a Barrett on the verge of retirement who was beaten in 2 rounds by someone 40lbs overweight.
    Tua was limited for sure, but atleast he paid his dues during the beginning of his career unlike Briggs. Don't forget that Briggs was knocked out by Darroll Wilson, who was in turn KO'd in one round by Tua. Briggs then got to fight Foreman who thought he was a soft touch, and he was, but Briggs somehow won the decision. After the Lewis fight, probably Briggs's most impressive performance, he went onto struggle with the likes of Sedreck Fields, Jameel McCline, Francois Botha, but was given an undeserved title shot after stopping an ancient Ray Mercer. Briggs pulled off the win by a comeback KO (his best win) and was soundly outpointed by Ibragimov. Now he gets another title shot yet again. Briggs never beat a top 10 contender, or anything close to it, to earn a title shot in his whole career.

    Basically, Briggs looks impressive, but his career is far from impressive.

    As for now, whoever is the more deserving challenger of the two, it surely isn't by much. Neither have done anything at world level in years.

    THat's my point exactly, better make a mil and use that to pay down your debts than to make nothing at all. He is ducking.
    Tua is not in a position to duck. He would love nothing more than a big payday, but he knows he only has one shot at the Klitschkos, and if gets the shot it will have to be enough to pay off most of the tax money. The man has no real chance of beating either Klitschko, and he will be finished if he loses. It's better for him to just keep campaigning until he gets a bigger offer, if he ever gets it.

    That's my opinion on it atleast.
    Last edited by TheGreatA; 10-09-2010, 02:33 PM.

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    • Medved
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      #42
      Originally posted by TheGreatA
      Tua was limited for sure, but atleast he paid his dues during the beginning of his career unlike Briggs. Don't forget that Briggs was knocked out by Darroll Wilson, who was in turn KO'd in one round by Tua. Briggs then got to fight Foreman who thought he was a soft touch, and he was, but Briggs somehow won the decision. After the Lewis fight, probably Briggs's most impressive performance, he went onto struggle with the likes of Sedreck Fields, Jameel McCline, Francois Botha, but was given an undeserved title shot after stopping an ancient Ray Mercer. Briggs pulled off the win by a comeback KO (his best win) and was soundly outpointed by Ibragimov. Now he gets another title shot yet again. Briggs never beat a top 10 contender, or anything close to it, to earn a title shot in his whole career.

      Basically, Briggs looks impressive, but his career is far from impressive.

      As for now, whoever is the more deserving challenger of the two, it surely isn't by much. Neither have done anything at world level in years.



      Tua is not in a position to duck. He would love nothing more than a big payday, but he knows he only has one shot at the Klitschkos, and if gets the shot it will have to be enough to pay off most of the tax money. The man has no real chance of beating either Klitschko, and he will be finished if he loses. It's better for him to just keep campaigning until he gets a bigger offer, if he ever gets it.

      That's my opinion on it atleast.

      He should take the fight and bet all the money on either brother and take a dive. Or take a fight against some bum where Tua would be 50/50 and take a dive. I dont know how good Tua's morals are but that would be one way to get his taxes paid.

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      • Floyd R
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        #43
        Bernie Maddoff made millions for himself while he fleeced his investors of their life savings and left many of them broke. Bernie is just one of the many so-called financial advisers that swindled investors by gaining the trust of people who thought their hard earned money was safe and in good hands.

        Do some research and look up Kenneth Starr, Andrew Stein, Marcus Schrenker, Trevor Cook, and R. Allen Sanford. This is a very small handful of financial advisers that ran companies that were charged with fraud by the US Securities and Exchange Commission. This type of fraud causes investors to lose billions and the rippling effects on the economy are devastating.

        The only person to trust with your money is you. No financial adviser can guarantee returns on your money invested.



        Originally posted by Medved
        He made billions didnt he? There is always a bad apple in the bunch, but in general if you move somewhere who are you going to trust?

        Yep, easy money = easy to spend.

        People dont know the meaning of a hard dollar and they think hey i made a mil so im going to spend it all since im going to fight again! Why not!

        Look at Chad Dawson, buying himself a 150k watch and some other dumb chit while basicly being a nobody and he's having financial troubles.

        Look at people like Jay-Z and Tiger, Jordan. They actually invested their money smartly while their competitors are all broke after being "ballers" in their rented ferraris and rented mansions.

        I'd rather work my ass off and invest my millions while living in a 1bedroom apartment driving a honda civic knowing that in 10 years I can retire and live like a king with all the cash I have made and invested.

        its like all those 30k Millionaires that I would see when I bounced at clubs, these guys would pretend to be so rich while all the money they made during the week they would drop at the club trying to impress people, then go home on a bus.

        Real people who have money or power never flaunt it, but those flaunting it crave it and are the broke ones.

        Like look at all the rappers, they start rapping about how rich they are when still living in the hood, even in the music videos they show all these nice houses and bling bling. Reality is that the music company rents all of those things for the rapper during their career. Thats why you see so many of them become crackheads and in jail.

        Instead of making 2 mill and buying property or investing it somewhere else they blow it on fake friends and ****** chit that has no long term value, then once they are old news they crave for that lifestyle again and will try to do anything to get it back.

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        • vercingetorix3
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          #44
          Tua should have put his money in a boat, I hear they're good investments.

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            #45
            dam poor guy hope he gets that paid off but he needs to invest money wisely

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            • LeadUppercut
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              #46
              Originally posted by gonhlywd
              There is NO law. NO statute that says any American HAS to pay taxes on their income. NO law what-so-ever. Do a little digging on the subject, you'll be quite surprised.
              Maybe in the USA, and good luck trying that on.

              I could be wrong, but I think it refers to the NZ IRD.

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              • LeadUppercut
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                #47
                Originally posted by Ray*
                What's with this boxers and their tax issues?
                After you eat, you brush your teeth.

                After you take a crap, you wipe your asss.

                After you earn, you pay taxes.

                It all seems pretty simple really.

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                • LeadUppercut
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Corelone
                  Too bad he lives in Australia.
                  David Tua is a kiwi, he lives in New Zealand.

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
                    Cedric Kushner has done a poor job of managing and promoting Tua.

                    David's had long periods of inactivity that certainly didn't help him pay his debts.
                    That had nothing to do with Kushner.

                    That was caused by David being naive about money, and getting involved with unnecessary legal wranglings with his former trainer and manager.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #50
                      This "Tua is ducking Wlad" bull****.....

                      Option 1 : Fight K2 for $400k, then retire owing the NZ government $1.6 mil - BTW..... Tua got $500k for fighting Shane (nobody) Cameron

                      Option 2 : Fight #1 for $700k-$800k, then fight #2 for $700k-800k, then fight #3 (when you are in a position with slightly more leverage) fight K2 for 1.2mil, and at least clear the tax problem before hangin-em-up.

                      Do some of you kids even think before you type ?

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